Doug

I refuse to believe we are still going to be going after has been cloggers anymore. Tell me this was just unsourced press speculation or will we never learn.

Immense. Cisse bust his foot kicking him. He and Jones will both be on the treatment table tomorrow after encountering him.

Bollocks. The lad got paid an awful lot of money to play for our club. If he had left in the summer then people would have accepted that. To ask for a transfer in mid-season and not have the bottle to stick around to help us stay up is just crap. Delude yourself all you want, but Shay has gone down in my estimations. Yeah would have been a great idea to leave the club just as Keegan's come in and potentially turned things around for the better. How was he to know Kev would quit and mid-season we'd be managed by Joe f***ing Kinnear?! I meant staying until this summer man. He could have hung in there until we were safe and left with a testimonial and no-one would have complained. But to get his lawyer/agent to make statements on his behalf commenting on how unsettled he is was just crap. He could have done it without going through the press. Totally agree. should have waited until the summer. What are Man city going to win this season anyway?

Nailed on true then. Its in the People

Big tron Hes avin a babble barf

The wantaways should stay until summer to keep us in the premier league, should have included Faye and Milner too. I don't want to go on a 12 hour nightshift tonight but its in my contract else i,m sacked.

No bastard should be leaving at this critical stage of the season. Only players coming in. Surely the clubs hierarchy will see that.

Go on. Talk up the best keeper in the league out of the door.

Only one thing will happen when you sell your key players. You go down. I refuse to believe it will happen. Suicide.

I suspect the forum is a fantastic medium for reflecting newcastle fans views as a whole. I can't think of anything better.

And yet you're happy enough for the banner to be displayed which, whether you like it or not, makes it look like all Newcastle fans share the same views. When you see a bloke at Wimbledon with one of those John 3:16 banners do you assume the crowd is jammed packed with god-squaders? bit f***ing different that though isn't it mate, unless it was a playoff game between the best tennis player of the clergy and the number one ranked satan worshipper get a grip, if attention is given to this banner then nationally this is what "we" are seen to think as fans, you have to see that A poll would have been interesting in this thread to see who agreed with being represented by the banner as without doubt it will be seen as representing us by the watching world.

WTF....... you mean to tell me there was no truth in the story that the scousers were being taken over by rich arabs. Well I,m frankly flabbergasted. who would have thought that the papers would have led us to believe that was happening only just a week ago without it being true..

utter WOFT

He must be holed up on the international space station because if hes on this earth I cant believe the press havent had a microphone and camera in his face since he left.

Think small, you ARE small. If clubs with smaller attendances can do it, a LOT less money coming in, then we should be able to. No one wants to be small, but everyone wants to be able to survive in order to become big. Open your eyes to the real world around you now. Have you not seen what is happening that is impacting on every aspect of life due to people spending what they havent got. Even the banks themselves are going bust.

Not relative to turnover. The debt to turnover ratios look about the same to me. You're right yes about the same, but slightly worse. I should revise what I said to "more gloomy" rather than "much more gloomy". The point is though if you advocate the prudent approach now, you must surely also say we should have taken the prudent approach back then too, and hence are happy to almost certainly have given up the achievements of 01-04 for the sake of more assured financial security. Does it not occur to you that this "prudent" approach is a reaction to the mismanagement of the past? Its a solution to a very real problem which wasnt the case back then when we did have source of finance. I am sure some people in here think there is a money tree where it can ne plucked from forever, They talk about millions as if it were loose change in the arse pocket.

Yes yes yes legs energy and a trick, play him its a no brainer

There have big debt, Need megabucks for a new ground. Its all just bullshit paper talk again man.

I could never but against me team...especially in this kind of game. Shameful stuff that is. On the contrary. it makes perfect sense. We are crap. I do it all the time. If the bet loses you dont care, but at least you can get some financial compo when the results are bad. You might as well get something out of the heartbreak.

Sell key players when you are already thin on the ground for quality and you go down whether it be Faye, Milner or Given we should not be doing it.

We have a big squad if you count the reserves and youth players. We are struggling because we dont play the best available 11 on the day. We start players who have no movement due to age, fitness or general lack of guile. Why? Why play Butt in the engine room of midfield if he cannot stand the pace. Surely Lua Lua a lad with skill and pace should be given a go. Stick butt at full back where he doesnt have to run all over the pitch if we must as edgar patently is ok for heading the ball away or contesting a 50 - 50 but is not a footballer when given possesion. Some of the older high earning has beens should be eased out now and give the youngsters with the high energy levels a go if they can run in posession of the ball.

Get a couple more young,uns in with him and ease Geremi, Butt and Viduka out.

Sky are as bad as the papers for putting any old twaddle out as news without anything to back it up. We are two pages into talking it up on here now. We never learn.

Geremis fresh legs. Dont make me laugh.

Half time 0=0. The crowd have been chanting "One Shay Given" spurs a poor second best to a wigan with 7 reserves in.