AlanSkÃrare

The propaganda from the club is what sickens me the most. They've been outrageously calculated and successful in tailoring their message and means of explanation. The perception of the club has changed radically in the past few seasons. Players, supporters, results, manager, owner, deals, everything is transformed to suit another reailty than the one we used to know. If you haven't bought into that reailty and have an affiliation with Newcastle United, nothing Alan Pardew says or does provides for an argument where you don't want him gone asap. The only reason there are still fragments of our support who don't actively want him out at any cost is people have come to terms with the new idea of NUFC. A majority seem ready to settle for a mediocre eternity under Mike Ashley.

Thing is, ask any fan in the country about their club's ownership and very few will be really happy - even those at clubs with mega rich owners spending crazy money are, in the main, not totally comfortable with it. Ours gets a lot of attention because he's a high profile retailer but other than him I'd struggle to name many, apart from the Glazers, Short and Gibson. Even the nutters at Hull, Cardiff and QPR's names escape me despite all the press they get. Our ownership is little more than symptomatic of what English football has become in the 21st century. We're certainly not unique. The manager issue is different. They do vary enormously. However for Saturday's protest to have failed so miserably, despite a year of poor results, last week's 4-0 hammering and being 2-0 down at home raises a lot of questions about how they went about it. It was a moment when they had everything going for them. My feeling is that Newcastle fans in the main are just sick of gimmicky protests and the embarrassment they cause. We've had poorly attended marches, mock funerals, open top buses, billboards etc. We've waved flags, banners etc and had more splinter protest groups than most could remember. It seems to achieve little more than bringing a few extra press vultures up from London for a weekend hoping to pile more ridicule on us. Backslapping each other about a well organised protest - which it obviously wasn't - and to have those who did want protest calling the 48,500 or so who didn't, "sheep", "c***s", "knackers" "idiots" or whatever is not really the way forward. Or maybe it is in their eyes ? What is needed is a sane, rational, non-gimmicky agenda which engages the majority of match attending supporters and the city in general. That or a practical, business savvy consortium like the original Magpie Group who would be taken seriously. Yeah, the argument on there is really irrational and insane. Especially the statements. The problem isn't and wasn't the first organised and factually based protest without any ego fronting it - the problem is what the club has managed to do to the fanbase. If there's no expectation of anything, there will be very little disappointment.

How timely... Matt Raisbeck ‏@raisbeck10 4 min Newcastle's Tin Krul, Pappis Cisse and Yoan Gouffran are ill and will miss tomorrow's League Cup tie at Crystal Palace #nufc

Now that we're already fighting relegation we'll probably turn up and set fire to their stadium rather than try to win it.

Same, it's preserved what I used to know about NUFC, the only place I recognise. This, it's really sad to see people so suspecting and antagonising.

Said this before, but Pardew is the most obvious expression of Ashley's non-existant ambition or interest in our football. Was never appointed on merit, not being judged on results.

It's the middle of the night, but today confirmed one thing for me. They've done well to strip our support of all this dignity. That highlights the importance of not giving up. They don't get to win.

He's a shit Leon Best that can't jump.

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Heard that too. Unreal.

Why is he fucking allowed out of his fucking dugout?

What the fuck has happend here like? Why has nobody said anything? Did he not want them to? Compare this to Villa and Petrov man.

FFS

He made Manchester United defend 1-0 leads. I'm sort of done watching that.

It's virtually impossible to judge anyone under his tyranny. From Adam Campbell to Remy Cabella. I'm even starting to question what Gabriel Obertan could have offered.

Finally sticking it to him.

It created expectation, higher hights to fall from. He wants status quo, dull 1-0 wins, dull draws, dull losses.

I actually think he's attempting to headbutt O'Neill as well.

Ashley probably knows Graham Carr is the only person at the club who can identify a suitable candidate who'll save us now. Very much points to a relegation fight though.

Two years of arguing with idiots for it not to come to this. Agree it's annoying.

I think break-even might mean break-even on a personal level for Ashley. With all the income from his Sports Direct exposure etc, maybe he feels as if the money invested (the loan to clean the debt) will be repaid by then? Just freely speculating.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20100509/nufc-statement_2281670_2047576

No banning for suggestions of Pardew dismissal. Some sort of hope.

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I think Mark Jensen is 1/4 Canadian. Related to David Edgar etc.