Dr Venkman

Desperate stuff in the last two games, I expected more, although I did expect it to take ages to clear the Pardew stink.

Let's hope so. I'm still reserving judgement but last night was awful, soundly beaten by an average team with one player. Team selection needs a rethink as plenty of others have said. It was so annoying seeing Mbemba constantly calling for someone to pass to along the floor whilst we've got players like Perez and Aarons on the bench. And when we did actually manage to find some decent penetrating passes through the middle, we kept on losing it when trying to build up play (usually because of Cisse's first touch). Yeah, the less said about that pissed idiot, the better.

Let's hope so. I'm still reserving judgement but last night was awful, soundly beaten by an average team with one player. Team selection needs a rethink as plenty of others have said. It was so annoying seeing Mbemba constantly calling for someone to pass to along the floor whilst we've got players like Perez and Aarons on the bench.

I miss Hatem

I still think Cisse's taking the piss.

I think Cisse's taking the piss.

He can't.

Looks like we'll get twice what he's worth next summer after the euro's.

Very late with this, but something that really stood out for me during the Arsenal game....Time and time again he was the out ball when we were coming forward and he never looked likely to do anything with it, it was a bit concerning. I didn't watch much last year, was he generally quite productive given the circumstances?

Grow up you soft cunts

There was definitely a good 3-4 years towards the end of his career when he was still taking free kicks and every single one of them went straight into the wall

I, for one, am in total meltdown.

He contested 4 long balls and won them all.

We need a poll.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. A... Do you think it would have been a red had Giroud done it ? B....Do you think there was intent ? a) some days yes, some days no. Don't think anyone can say either way for sure. b) No, but it's already been established that they don't take that into account. Have to say I think your wrong. Look at every tackle in isolation like that and you can buiold a case. Colback was fouled at shin height with no attempt at playing tha ball, foul, no booking, it's letter of the law some times, not at others (and today that was obvious) not helped by by a ref who gave 2 bookings because someone told him to. The Colback tackle was shin height but not particularly dangerous (although probably should have been a yellow). Mitrovic's was studs down the shin and onto the foot. Look, all I'm saying is it's hardly the outrageous decision that some are making out. You put all 10 PL refs in a room to watch that challenge and I can almost guarantee you that at least 8 or 9 of them give reds. I'm backing this up based on Howard Webb and Graham Poll's comments after the game - both of which said it was a red card offence. I COMPLETELY agree that there's issues with consistency, but as a stand alone incident it's so obvious why it was a red card. Look, more made up statistics. You thought it was a red, fine. Why are you making stuff up man? Ok, you clearly have an issue with my posts today so I will refrain from replying after this one, but I clearly said above why I think that most refs would give it based on the fact that one did give it, and two ex refs agreed with it. Hardly a "made up" stay as you are suggesting. If ex refs are agreeing with the decision is it soooo outlandish to suggest that the majority of refs would also agree? Anyway, you've clearly got a problem with me having a different opinion to you, so I'll be sure to get confirmed Opta stats to back up my opinion next time...see if you approve more then Nah, sorry, I'm not being accused of having a problem with you having a different opinion, that's just bullshit. I've said all along it's the way you're constructing wafer thin arguments based on made up statistics to try and prove the way you saw it was correct.

You can always buy players approaching 30 if you pay enough. Sunderland did that with a couple of ex-Man U defenders. Fucks sake man, you were wrong, just leave it. I'm not wrong. Palace did ok after Pardew's appointment even before they paid daft money for Cabaye. Let's see where they are, and what he's worth in 12 months time. Eh? Am I tripping balls? Have I been cheesing? It's clear as day in Dave's post that you've quoted!

100% of the cats in my house don't think it was a red card.

Fans and managers should accept that as well though, shouldn't they? Yes Ian, they should.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. A... Do you think it would have been a red had Giroud done it ? B....Do you think there was intent ? a) some days yes, some days no. Don't think anyone can say either way for sure. b) No, but it's already been established that they don't take that into account. Have to say I think your wrong. Look at every tackle in isolation like that and you can buiold a case. Colback was fouled at shin height with no attempt at playing tha ball, foul, no booking, it's letter of the law some times, not at others (and today that was obvious) not helped by by a ref who gave 2 bookings because someone told him to. The Colback tackle was shin height but not particularly dangerous (although probably should have been a yellow). Mitrovic's was studs down the shin and onto the foot. Look, all I'm saying is it's hardly the outrageous decision that some are making out. You put all 10 PL refs in a room to watch that challenge and I can almost guarantee you that at least 8 or 9 of them give reds. I'm backing this up based on Howard Webb and Graham Poll's comments after the game - both of which said it was a red card offence. I COMPLETELY agree that there's issues with consistency, but as a stand alone incident it's so obvious why it was a red card. Look, more made up statistics. You thought it was a red, fine. Why are you making stuff up man?

The major problem referees have is that their entire profession is based on a lie. The FA quash any idea that the referee might get something wrong, hence, no review of a decision that the ref has 'seen'. The only possible justification for that is that referees don't make mistakes. Anyone not willing to accept that they make mistakes isn't worthy of respect.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. Martin Keown - ex-Arsenal player said it was a red. The same bloke who thought Coquelin was going to die under Thauvin's "challenge". I'm not watching MOTD so I have no idea what Keown said, but every single match report say it was deserved, all the BT commentators and pundits said it was deserved, and my eyes tell me that it's a perfectly legitimate red card. No intent, but it turned into a bad challenge. Loads of people on here disagree with you, what's the big deal? Who said there was a big deal? I'll rephrase the question, why don't you get that there's an argument about it? People see it different ways, no matter how many statistics you imagine.

Easy there.

Part of the 5%.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. Martin Keown - ex-Arsenal player said it was a red. The same bloke who thought Coquelin was going to die under Thauvin's "challenge". I'm not watching MOTD so I have no idea what Keown said, but every single match report say it was deserved, all the BT commentators and pundits said it was deserved, and my eyes tell me that it's a perfectly legitimate red card. No intent, but it turned into a bad challenge. Loads of people on here disagree with you, what's the big deal?

and be a "big club". Stop contradicting me.