Andy

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Let's just remind ourselves that banning you is considerably less controversial than banning Dave.

Let's take a vote in admin to have him banned.

Dave, you are a cunt of the very highest order

People obviously aren't going to agree on the subject, because surely the "best" league is simply the one with the greater quantity of clubs that inspire the most emotion (positive or negative) in you, subjectively? That's all it comes down to, isn't it? How much of a shit we give about the teams themselves as opposed to their actual combined quality -- something which is pretty much unmeasurable anyway?

I have to admit, despite the monumental screw-ups that have been made over the last year and a bit by Ashley and his cronies, my reaction is the same as that of others in the thread: stability is needed. Ashley's team MUST have learnt from their mistakes by now, surely? Assuming that they have, and that they're willing to listen to the likes of Shearer regarding the footballing side of things - people who might just know a thing or two about football - then they might just be able to turn it around still. But they have to invest, and I'm sure they know that. The last thing we need is another bumbling bunch of idiots to come in and make their own mistakes, which THEY then need time to "learn from", throwing us further into turmoil in the process.

Funny how you can answer yourself sometimes.

No problem Gary.

Rather than money-spinners, just sort out some easy jobs who we can hopefully piss all over to get our confidence back in front of goal.

Have to agree with Gemmill's sentiments like. You take stick and you give it back when the roles are reversed. When you start taking football-banter so seriously that you would fall-out with someone over it you really need to give yourself a shake tbh.

Football fans in banner-banter shock. The fact is that the image put forward by our club in recent years by the club itself, the players, SSN-appearing mongs, and various other parties, has resulted in pretty much universal hatred from every other set of fans. It's hardly a shock to see the response from the Villa contingent. If we had been the club who had relegated Leeds, for instance, there would have been a similar response from sections of our fans towards them.

Didn't really feel anything due to how expected it was. Shearer's interview was the only point I came close to non-apathy really, which is sad.

The forum does it by default. It's the Youtube uploader that determines whether it embeds or not. The software can only take so many videos to one page iirc.

Ginola was a better player to watch, but Robert on form was pretty much the difference between a win and a loss.

Beat me to it!! That's four words.

Habib Beye is the one player at our club who I actually like - the "why?" of which is demonstrated perfectly in that article. Great read, and I'd echo the sentiments that the bloke should be captain ahead of the other jokers who have worn the armband in recent times.

What the fuck is guardiola playing at leaving his substitutions until 5 minutes are left?

Ridiculous sending off.

Barcelona have been fucking wank going forward tbh... Not just because Chelsea have defended well either; their quality in the final third has been non-existent compared to normal.

Well, yeah, pretty much. shocking tbh PM if you want to discuss it. Thanks.

Well, yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, because he was s*** against Real Madrid at the weekend. Kinel, another jumped up little tosser to bat off. I said 'big game'. La Liga is like the SPL these days. Yeah, I don't like you. Bye.

Yeah, because he was shit against Real Madrid at the weekend.

Probably the worst metaphor I have read in my entire life

I can't describe how I feel when I watch Newcastle nowadays. I used to watch the club because I really gave a shit; the highs were amazing under Keegan and Robson, and the lows in between were painful but still hopeful. Even under Gullit I never stopped loving the club; even when the football was piss poor and the managerial decisions were mortifying... I still watched every match, and I still felt passion, and I still believed in the players on the pitch; because even though at times they really were piss poor, I still felt like they cared, and I could still identify with them. Even on the night of the 2-1 home defeat against Sunderland, I didn't come anywhere close to what I feel watching the team lately. Even under Souness we were shit, but there was Shearer and Bellamy up front, and Robert on one wing and Nobby on the other, and no matter how badly they played I always gave a shit because these blokes were fucking heroes who had delivered more than their fair share of absolutely heart-stopping moments of delight in their Newcastle careers (even if said careers were coming to an end), and they warranted support. They forced me to give a fuck. They earned it. Nowadays I look at the likes of Martins, Owen, Butt, Smith (every player in our squad, basically -- just to save me the hassle of listing them), and I just can't identify with them... They're not heroes; they haven't done anything to earn admiration. All they've earned from me is apathy, at best. Abhorrence would probably be more fitting of them though, for what they've done to the club. You can blame owners, managers, coaches, banners and whatever else you may wish, but the players are what it really comes down to. The tactics may be wrong, the coaching may be poor, the leadership may be terrible; but none of those things excuse heartlessness. These are professional footballers. They should be able to motivate themselves playing under the guidance of a fucking three-legged cow when they are in a relegation battle. They are gutless, and watching Newcastle nowadays is no longer hurtful or painful, it's completely and utterly alien -- like watching a sequel to your favourite movie which is released years after the first, and realising that the story has changed, it has new writers and a new director, and most importantly, the heroes that you loved so much in the first movie have been replaced by bumbling idiots. The only thing that remains similar is the title, but that alone isn't enough to make you give a shit about it. If we'd been relegated under Gullit, Souness or Roeder, I would have been absolutely gutted; devastated; heartbroken... Right now, towards these players, I just don't feel that way. This isn't the Newcastle United Football Club that I grew up watching, it's some fake, distant imposter of a club, and while I still feel a twinge inside my mind which says "BE SAD NOW", the instruction feels forced and logical rather than emotional. Anyway, that's just my two pennies worth on our plight, since I agreed with BooBoo's sentiments... I shall slink back to the safety of the Lost thread now.