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If he scores, creates a goal or otherwise contributes towards Wigan gaining points in the next 3 games that they might not have got if he weren't available people will, rightly, complain that he shouldn't have been on the pitch. If he causes another injury in the next 3 games there'll be absolute hell on.

As I remember, Sir John Hall bought his shares for £8 million. He put no other money into the club until Keegan was manager & threatened to quit unless we bought a player. Sir John Hall then borrowed £1 million from his wife to fund the transfer. So £9 million into the club, only £1 million of which went towards the actual running of the club in any way. In the meantime, he floated the club to offload a few shares and repay debts and fund the rebuilding of the stadium (rebuilt by Cameron Hall Developments, so we paid him there too) and after paying dividends for a few years even whilst making huge losses, they lastly sold their shares to Ashley and cashed in yet again. The Halls helped the club immensely but they also made out like bandits from their tenure.

He was the fucking captain. If he thought that something needed to be done on the pitch, he was meant to be responsible. If the players needed motivating beyond what the manager could do that was his responsibility. Being great in training will get you precisely nowhere in the league.

It sets a pretty dodgy precedent for future charges too. What happens if a linesman at the other end of the pitch has a clear view of an incident but doesn't flag? Any competent club contesting a charge in the future can point at an unobstructed view by any official they can claim that the incident was seen and no action taken. A shocking decision by the FA. Truly disgusting.

Utterly incompetent

200 views & nothing? did i woosh myself? It's commonly said that the first 'Derby' between us and Sunderland was the Battle of Bouldon Hill in the civil war. Newcastle Royalist and Sunderland Parliamentarians. Sunderland won. No idea what it is you've posted. That's the death of Godwin of Wessex, the father of King Harold, in Winchester. He died over 100 years before Sunderland even existed and 30 years before the keep was built in Newcastle.

October 1984, Newcastle vs Ipswich. We won 3-0, George Burley scored an own goal inside 20 seconds. Chris Waddle & Pat Heard scored the others.

When was the last time we won a game broadcast on ITV?

Pissed away enough chances to win that game 3 times.

Superb

Fuck me that was hard going. Great win but how the fuck did Jonas stay on the pitch for 90+ minutes?

Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. I was at that game, last game of the season and we were 3 nil up. We were so comfortable that we all decided to leave to watch who got relegated at half time. Next thing you know they had come back and we all couldn't believe it considering we'd pissed the first half without getting out of first gear. That was just one game off the top of my head. I can think of plenty others where his chopping and changing during 90 mins have led to us looking clueless by the time the whistle's blown. When he makes his changes we become completely useless, i don't think i've ever known a manager of any team to be as bad at it. If he makes subs to chase a game, we never look like scoring and always concede. And like now when we try to shore it up, which happens whenever we go ahead at any time in a game, we look like letting in goals at every attack. He is just useless. What must it say to the players on the pitch too? Does he bring on an attacking player yesterday to signal that we're trying to push on and score a 2nd? No, on comes a defensive player to shore up a midfield that was coping just fine at that point. It wasn't a substitution to counter a specific threat, just a general signal that he doesn't trust the team to be able to hold on to or extend a lead. It must piss some of the players off no end when they get hauled off when they're playing quite well whilst Jonas & Shola are huffing and puffing out on the pitch whilst contributing fuck all. Run around to no effect? Play 90 minutes. Try and win the game? Substituted.

If he's still here come Friday I'm putting a tenner on us to go down.

With the starting line up & substitutions I can only think that he's deliberately thrown the game today to get the sack. No one could be that clueless without trying.

Inexcusable.

A goal behind? Well this game is lost.

He MUST be trying to get the sack. Just inexplicable.

If he starts with Shola up front & Cisse out wide I'll believe that he's trying to get sacked.

I can't think of another manager in the league who would still be in a job after the sort of run we've had recently. Even Fergie would be at home collecting his pension after a run of 7 points from the last 12 games (and a bonus arse kicking from a team 1 league below us in the cup).

Not everyone has the same mentality as you Pards. Expected the team, playing in front of their own fans, the team that put us out of the cup last season to look at our weakened line up and to sit back? Did he assume that they hadn't watched some of our recent games where any team that harassed our players would win the ball 90% of the time, or force the ball back to our keeper to punt it out of possession again? Is he for fucking real?

Pathetic. Utterly clueless. We just got completely outplayed by a team one league below. The players who started today should have been more than capable of competing in that game but we seemed to have no cohesion, plan or desire to win the game and that's down to the management and coaching.

Brighton fans chanting You're getting sacked in the morning Fucking hope so.

Pardew already threw it at kick off

This. "Smaller" teams with squads considerably worse than ours manage to play football. The football we've played recently is as bad, or worse, than any of the crap served up by Allardyce and Souness. Fuck knows what they do in training but the players look like they've never met. The one thing that I'm hanging on to now is that it was a inept display against a Championship side away in the FA Cup that saw Allardyce get the bullet.

What a stupid fucking dick