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That's true, so if we could get some money, wouldn't this be something that we should do? Given that it would basically free money since no one would call it by the new name anyway. You could try, but pretty much every business would realise the same thing - no one is going to mention their name - so the money we'd get from selling the naming rights would be negligible.

Naming a new stadium works OK (The Emirates, etc.) but changing the name of an existing stadium would be an exercise in futility, no one would call it by the new name unless they were forced to do so.

Loads of thought gone into this - Which of these statements best apply to your current lifestage? Living at home with my parents Left parents home and live alone in shared accommodation Live with partner only, no children or other people in household Children in household, majority are pre-school age Children in household, majority are of school age Children in household, majority are beyond school age Children have all left home, live with partner alone Live with my son or daughter in their home Other Have they never met someone who lives on their own?

Fuck Played better than we have in ages & yet again our own stupid fucking mistakes kill us

Source? 55% said that even given the current world financial situation they were not prepared for Ashley to stay at United. http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/11/29/ashley-given-second-chance-in-fan-survey-61634-22365564/ So once again, NUSC agree with the majority... 27% is not a majority (unless you're actually George W Bush) erm....exactly. 73% of people agree with the NUSC that there are circumstances under which Ashley could stay. That's completely the opposite to what you originally posted though I was trying to point out that according to that Journal survey, there are only 27% of fans who feel that way. I agree that there are dozens of things that Ashley could do to fix things up here, and I agree in principle that there's a need for a supporter's voice at board level, or at least one that can speak directly to board level. Given what happened when Keegan left if there had been a strong supporter's voice to tell Llambias & Ashley that they needed to take action a hell of a lot faster both in appointing a replacement manager & telling us all what the fuck was going on then much of what's happened this season simply wouldn't have happened. But I do not think that NUSC, in their current incarnation, are that voice. They are far too adversarial in their approach to the club, one of their stated aims is to get rid of Llambias, does anyone really think that he's going to be that receptive to a group who want him out of a job?

Source? 55% said that even given the current world financial situation they were not prepared for Ashley to stay at United. http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/11/29/ashley-given-second-chance-in-fan-survey-61634-22365564/ So once again, NUSC agree with the majority... 27% is not a majority (unless you're actually George W Bush)

Source? 55% said that even given the current world financial situation they were not prepared for Ashley to stay at United. http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/11/29/ashley-given-second-chance-in-fan-survey-61634-22365564/

The alternative to Souness? Off the top of my head here are a few suggestions to who or what is preferable to Graeme Souness: Cancer Being bummed to death by a randy zebra A week listening to Glenn Roeder recite poetry Having your testicles mashed between 2 bricks Suicide As a genuine alternative. Hire a real fucking manager, not a stop gap.

I'd rather play a cardboard cut-out of Geremi than Geremi himself. Geremi is OK in short 20 minute bursts but that's all his 90 year old legs will allow. The last time Geremi started a game the only times he got within 10 metres of the ball was when he was asked to take a free kick. At least with a cardboard cut-out you know that at some point its going to get in a Man Utd player's way as they stroll through our midfield.

They're banging to be let out....

No. We just need a manager, not JFK, not Venables, but a real fucking manager. Preferably one who has some fucking clue about coaching teams to do more than defend.

Waste the chances & pay the price What the fuck was with the Martins substitution? Both things have happened far too often this season.

The £32m was for the most part an accounting loss due to the reduction in the book value of the players due to amortisation, impairment & disposal. If you look at the net debt of the club it went from £61m in 2006 to £70m in 2007, that gives a clearer indication of the money the club lost in real terms in that year, ie about £10m. In Ashley's first year the debt went from £70m to £100m+, this is in spite of getting the £18m TV bonus over the previous year. I couldn't understand at the time how the club could have suddenly started making such "real" losses, but this is obviously due in no small part to Ashley's decision to pay for players up front. The massive losses last year are therefore less to do with the position the previous owner's left the club in and more to do with how Ashley has chosen to restructure player purchases. As I see it there are advantages and disadvantages to either way of doing it, but to change from structuring transfer payments over a number of years to paying up front for any new purchases is obviously going to incur a large financial hit for several years. This is crippling the club in the short term, and is the main reason Ashley is having to loan the club more money. Each year we carry on purchasing players up front the club's losses for the same transfer outlay will inevitably fall compared to the first few years under Ashley as the payments for players from previous years are paid up. So the losses under Ashley will reduce merely as a consequence of that, not necessarily because of any improved management of the club's finances. When finance is hard to come by it seems a strange time to consciously decide to turn down credit, and I'm honestly not sure what Ashley thinks he's gaining by doing this, unless he thinks that he's going to look like the hero in the short term pouring money into the club to save it from financial ruin, and then the business genius in the medium term when the losses are turned into profits. You're already arguing in his favour from the projections, so he may be right in how people will view it. Didn't Mort say that Shepherd had already borrowed against the extra TV income?

A bit of positive stuff to look forward to for a change. Two winnable games too. Just begging for something Dreamteamesque to occur in March then.

Not what's been reported recently. The Keane deal (incoming) was apparently brokered by Parry & opposed by Benitez, hence why Benitez never played him. The Keane deal (outgoing) was opposed by Parry but wanted by Benitez. There's been an ongoing power struggle at the club over who has control over transfers for a while now.

Did you just reveal yourself as Jeremy Clarkson?

The club's business activities would be player sales, merchandising, concessions at the ground, ticket sales, etc. It isn't rocket science. That’s incoming money. The pie seller was talking about money for buying players, hence the word generate. He’s saying the money for transfers and so on (whatever so on is) has to come from a different place to where Mike is investing his money. Which begs the question does the club have two bank accounts, and if so why? It's the same thing. We've always been told that Ashley will put his cash into the club, so far that's had to cover wages, bills, etc. As the wage bill comes down that cash from Ashley, and anything extra generated by the club's income, will be available for transfers.

The club's business activities would be player sales, merchandising, concessions at the ground, ticket sales, etc. It isn't rocket science.

I've seen much worse this season to be honest and while I can't disagree with anyone who claims Big Sam was in general pretty rubbish in his time here I believed in time even under Ashley he'd have turned us around in terms of top 8 which we would all kill for right now. Not that my points are about Big Sam himself, more what his appointment meant in terms of how FS saw the future, recognised the past and his plans to turn the club around on and off the pitch. Lets remember when he was appointed most fans were in favour and even those that didn't like him or rate him highly nor wanted him here recognised that what he believed in, science, diet, fitness, scouting, building from the back and his experience at working with small budgets was very much inline with what was needed at the club and indeed required. I believe the arrival of a man worth £2bn lifted expectations and upped the preasure levels. I mean as soon as Ashley took over many on here were debating what that meant for Big Sam and whether the goalposts had moved and did we now require a different type of manager. That was always in the backs of fans' heads, not all of course but a good number, increasing the likelihood of less patience. Mind the loss to Derby didn't do him any fabours, nor his tactics and some of the team's performances. All I know is I was happy when he was appointed, could see some sense in it all and some hope for the future, a one that was better than what we had seen under Souness and Roeder. Today I have zero hope and see no sense in any of Ashley's so-called plans. I guarantee they will fail unless he appoints a competent manager and gives that man full control and even then there is no guarantee. We were shit under fat sam, truly utterly shit. We might have been in the top 8 under fat sam's management, but it'd be the top 8 of the championship.

Closer to £300k than £200k I don't see Joey Barton being here next season either. Duff should be a prime contender for the chop too, underperforming on high wages, but he has that jedi mind trick thing that makes every manager play him.

Club owns it assets outright thus making us more attractive to potential buyers/investors. Also means we're not still paying for players after they've left the club, like we were with Luque and Emre.

Wonder who he was looking at

And there's some more irony for you. When Reynolds got their new stadium built he didn't really consider the location or the impact it might have if 25,000 all turned up at once. Unfortunately for the club, Darlington council did consider it, due to the stadium's location there's no adequate parking nearby for any great numbers of fans to use. The council stepped in to stop any more than about 12,000 people entering the stadium. So even if they were to go on a bizarre cup run playing against all of the Sky 4 at home they'd be prevented from selling all their tickets. There's even been talk of knocking down a whole stand to build offices, homes & shops just so they can make better use of the stadium than just having an empty stand at every game.

They'll be deducted points, but they're pretty safe in their division even if they lose points. I think there were 3 teams that started this season in that division with negative points & they're well behind Darlo.