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I actually think Ranger is the far better prospect of the two tbh. Carroll will never ever be a top striker imo, I know that's basically throwing darts at a board but he doesn't really demonstrate genuine ability with his feet very often at all. That said, Carroll right now can be very effective at this level and i'm content for him to remain in the team until Pele returns.

Quite loud tbf

He's not getting a chance because he hasn't earned one yet. Ranger's been far more effective and worked much harder when given a first team shirt. Ranger hasn't scored in 8 games against utterly useless opposition. Lovenkrands always tries hard imo and showed last season that he can make an impact when it matters

Why clearly not? You're here arguing that our senior players should be playing because they're much better. Well considering their experience and probable wages both Harewood and Lovenkrands should be keeping the likes of Carroll and Ranger out of the starting line-up. I misunderstood, my apologies.

clearly not, but one of them should be starting

yeah, 5.5 having reconsidered that one. I like his enthusiasm and positivity going forward, but very little came off for him

the whole 'don't change a winning team' philosophy is rubbish tbh. Especially when you're playing 2 games in just over 3 days.

bang on with that

Harper 6 Simpson 7 Taylor 6 Khiz 7 Enrique 6 Guthrie 6 Smith 7 Nolan 6.5 Butt 3 Carroll 5 Ranger 5 Jonas 7 Harewood 7 Lovenkrands 5 Enrique has one of those game where he defends brilliantly but looks toothless in attack, made excellent runs but never put the ball where he wanted it to go, very frustrating. Guthrie could easily do well in RM but his head dropped after the penalty miss tonight.

it worked because Nolan was on fire. Despite Ipswich's woeful defence the two strikers didn't really trouble and Butt was his usual woeful self. The starting line-up tonight was horribly wrong and in truth they battered us for the first 20 minutes

He's been with us for a month now and it's been almost 3 weeks since his appearance at Cardiff, he's surely fit enough now

Did Jonas play down the lad when he came on? He normally does well with Enrique. Him and Enrique looked really good together, they got in behind time after time but typically the end product wasn't good enough

Why is Lovenkrands not getting a chance up front? We all know he's no winger, so if he's really behind 4 players in the pecking order, why bother giving him a contract?

The long ball tactics are cringworthy, when we started getting the ball down on the left hand side we were raping them

I was just amazed that most wanted Carroll and Ranger up front again.

Wait till 30 mins before kick-off, then place your bets

How difficult is it to stand in a dressing room with Butt and tell him that he's not playing because he's shit? Hardest thing in the world apparently. On the left in a diamond, fucking hell

and thank fuck, or so I though

are you lot going to acknowledge the fact that Ranger isn't ready for first team football when his strike partner is Carroll? The lad grafts, run his bollocks off and at times shows nice touches and decent strength. Means nothing when he doesn't have a clue where to stand or where to run. He's going to have to go back to the reserves, continue to mature as a player and get the occassional 20 minutes when we're up against it. Harewood had been on the pitch 10 minutes and he'd scored one and three times got into a goalscoring position, the difference he made was staggering. As I said on Saturday he HAS to start the next game. Still i'm sure there will be one or two who'll still pick Ranger and Carroll, who've managed 2 goals between them in a combined 16 games.

I hope the cunt's leg falls off

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brilliant odds, has to be Skybet

If Jonas is crossing to players with decent movement (such as Harewood) he'll look an awful lot better in that respect

Jonas, but see your point