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A rare shocking post but it has been a long day so I'm not Heron out yet.

Does any PL club have a reliably loud home crowd? I feel like every club would have the same issues with entrenched ST holders, fans older and older each year, young people priced out etc.

Nah, he always looks for a pass before he decides to dribble. It's usually when he's already cornered and it's the best way out.

OK, but that's not what started this discussion, jeez

For the project as a whole or just because of the manager?

Seems we know we need a first choice GK given we tried for Trafford and Marmadashvili at least.

I thought it was unwise to just bump him to the bench as soon as Wissa was fit, but I can understand that Howe thought he was getting guaranteed goals.

Yes, I was just addressing that part of your post because it's the part that would affect any manager. Nobody denies he's accountable for what he can control, there's just more than that to the overall bigger picture.

Agree but it's hard to say how much is because the team is functioning quite badly and therefore he needs to defend a lot more. He runs absolutely miles at times, would be worried without that beside Bruno.

He's on to a difficult task with the fans because we often want players to do the wrong thing. He even got pelters for a header he actually won near me But at the same time, he could maybe factor in that English fans generally want someone to just do the basics and punt a few shots at goal to show willing.

Am I living in a parallel universe where you didn't bring up everything that's wrong "on and off the park"?

I never wanted Jones so happy to peddle him as a blood sacrifice.

Nobody says losing Isak explains everything but it's a massive setback. Of course if you get Ekitike it doesn't bother you so much, sadly we were rejected by about 7 strikers. And then we signed 2 proven PL attackers who have done absolutely nothing.

That chance he had looks appalling on the highlights. Body position is all over the shop and hardly connects with the ball at all. Reminded me of me at 7 a-side towards the end of an hour of play.

I've actually been taking solace in this without being able to name it

Well yes, sure, that's the part he is responsible for. Try a thought experiment where Howe resigns on Monday. Personally I feel a lot more worried about the next 1.5 seasons than if he's still here.

Feel slightly less annoyed with Howe since watching the highlights and the details. I was frustrated at the match but I didn't realise how soft their penalty was and how bad Pope does on the winner. Obviously the sheer number of mistakes made by Murphy and Trippier as well.

Drama queen

It's not his job to fix the whole club. He already did that once.

Sensible. There are so many mitigating factors that I can't see a way to attribute enough blame to Howe to say he should be sacked. Luckily 92% of people on here seem to agree. With the current situation I think I would ideally just play the same lineup every game and hope that some relationships develop and we start to click more often. However, that's extremely hard to do with things like no good GK, no fit RB of the right standard, 2 major CMs missing etc. I expect a really hard month coming up but I'd give Howe summer and next season no matter what. Also gives the new execs time to earn their money. I really hope it doesn't become bad enough that he decides to quit, then we really are in trouble.

It's truly shocking for the winner like, he's half way out or half way back, not set and not ready to make a save. Really bad.

Also shows just how hard it is to suggest a better manager.

Probably the most disappointing signing given he was supposed to be the reliable source of goal threat this season. Fairly disastrous for the overall plan. Still would't write off any signing at this point in their first season mind, especially after an injury like he's had.

Truly appalling stuff and massive disrespect to arguably our best ever manager.

Definitely feels like opponent's chances are flying in.