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If you went and paid to attend games and now cannot attend games you shouldn't be charged for it doesn't really need to be anything more than a business transaction goods and services and all that just like Ashley has treated the fan base and the club in general.

I'm sorry, I can't agree with this. It's 2-4 weeks, historically all deals have taken that kind of time to ratify. The Man City one with 3 owners, one from the middle east as a major holder and 2 other minor holders, took what, 22 days? It is a process, yes. It is a complicated process, yes. But it's one with an expected timescale which has been massively exceeded and I don't agree that we cannot infer there might be problems from this. Similarly, people mention "project restart" as if the PL is an organisation of 3 people who all have to do any work that comes in, like they'll down tools on this to prioritise work on that when in reality the PL is a massive organisation with dedicated teams for different things and in this case they're two entirely separate things. This is taking way longer than it should, way longer than we'd expect it to, and that is worrying. It’s a complicated deal and we are living in unprecedented times due to Covid-19, any deal of this nature will automatically take longer as a result and to consider otherwise would be crazy, whether the PL have 1 man or 20 man working on this. Again, patience is the key and everyone not to worry, there is nowt anyone of us can do anyway and willing it to happen yesterday won’t work. People can work remotely just as efficiently as in an office these days. It certainly doesn't double the timescales on anything. You're right that there's nothing we can do apart from wait, but I disagree about the "not to worry" bit for exactly the reasons I've mentioned. I think these are precisely the time and circumstances in which to worry. This is overdue. This is taking longer than it should. The silence is concerning. Whilst you can postulate about this and that and clutch at straws to explain the delay, the simplest and most obvious reason why it's taking so long is because there's a problem. even if your right and there is an issue it isn't a issue they have publically rejected the bid (unless they dont do that either) and that means that any issue is not insurmountable meaning the phase "it needs to play out" & "it takes as long as it takes" arent necessarily a bad way of putting things.

well this is escalating quickly ......

I cannot see that level of turn around to be honest. I have said before every player is replaceable however I would like 5 players in key positions to establish a core spine in the squad and in the next 2 or 3 windows actively look to get 2 or 3 quality editions per window. Obviously I like the idea of signing more under 19s for the future and to develop our youth setup at the same time. However that is almost secondary and dependent on which manager we have. I say that as some hate bringing on and integrating youth talent so would be pointless if that were the case. In a properly ran club, it's not the manager's responsibility to bring in or train youth talent... I meant more from the prospective of those players actually getting a chance and playing. Having a strong youth setup sounds great but if they are not playing or in the managers thoughts there is no point to begin with as there are far more important issues.

I cannot see that level of turn around to be honest. I have said before every player is replaceable however I would like 5 players in key positions to establish a core spine in the squad and in the next 2 or 3 windows actively look to get 2 or 3 quality editions per window. Obviously I like the idea of signing more under 19s for the future and to develop our youth setup at the same time. However that is almost secondary and dependent on which manager we have. I say that as some hate bringing on and integrating youth talent so would be pointless if that were the case.

I prefer to hang on the comment of the tests "they are what they are for all to see" as in you may not like it but you can only judge on the test we have which hasn't thrown up issues as reported. Yes we may see the test change off the back of our takeover but still confident.

But isn't that from the article by Luke Edwards....you know...the guy who has been shamelessly plugging Bruce's qualities all season? What are the chances of him having any real information on what the new owners plans are for Brucie? No I think its the Jason Burt article in telegraph sport someone posted on the forum. Not that I don't agree with the sentiment most have no clue.

So we are getting relegated next season then. Yeah..... but almiron is worth 34 million so saleable assets when you drop.

from a user prospective I hate the website design making you go through multiple page hits but always nice in a way to see a tongue and cheek approach to possible signings that I hope really dont come to pass but another way to pass the time. https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/stunning-ps250m-predicted-newcastle-united-line-set-start-next-season-according-football-manager-2861835

to be fair to some of the fan base that action of sacking him with the feeble excuse of wanting their own man in would give them more kudos than letting him stay on.

just imagine the play-doughed face idiot puts a run in and is given another season, only we could pull off such a high and low extreme in one fell swoop.

all great until you read this bit and even if 5% true my heart sank. "However it is understood the buyers have a clear and detailed five-year plan to overhaul and modernise Newcastle and will back Bruce, at least until the end of the season, with the 59-year-old also given every opportunity to remain as the club’s manager beyond that."

hopefully he is swiftly offered out on loan never to return

The Man City ownership is the same way. 78% Abu Dhabi group 12% China Media Capital 10% Silver Lake (American investment group) I was not aware of that at all with such a large % stake its almost like the others dont exist. I wonder how that works though say the board decide to invest 300 million into the club does that have to come as those 80/10/10%'s from the three owners or can one owner just foot the bill. Does over investment from 1 party allow them to ask for a different % of ownership down the line?

So has there been any plausible reasons as to why a mega rich business needs partners and would effectively give up 20% to have two other stake holders? Is it because they wish to remain silent and not have to deal with day to day operations? Is it because they haven't invested in a club before? Is it because it apportions the blame if it goes wrong at times? I am really curious to find out not sure if they will ever say but surely it will be a question put to them at some point.

"whats that you say Gayle, colback and muto available for 78 million, bargin where do we sign"

If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. Agree with this. Should be able to pick up a 30-32 yr old striker of pedigree for a reasonable price, especially post-Covid where clubs will be keen to get some income. Players in their early 30s are still in their prime, but often clubs want to move them on so they can invest in younger talents. its important to weigh up positive and negatives you don't want journeymen you don't want to be offering long deals to 32/33 year olds on massive wages as you cannot shift them. Accepting your not going to turn a profit on an older player but that's not to say a 30/31/32 year old cannot add value to your squad. If the big clubs move onto the next 22/23 year old break out star that should be leaving an ideal opportunity to take their older stars finding themselves down the pecking order. If we can get that and the next big thing as well then great but all about being realistic and still a little cautious in our signings.

I think he meant pages not posts I was hopeful by around page 350 but then debate/counter/redebate & where have you poo'd before happened and here we are.

If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. That's the problem - scouting is so good these days that up-and-coming players get snapped up at 18/19, put on massive wages - Haaland, Moise Kean, Martial, Mbappe. There's no one in the championship good enough to make the step up and the bottom half of the PL is slim pickings as well. Maybe an older player like Giroud or Rondon could work as a stop-gap? My knowledge of European and world football is crap since i stopped playing football manager so i'm sure there must be some names out there. Certainly not disagreeing about the youth they are either already silly prices with little to no experience/consistency or are already playing at a club that is deemed next level either challenging for honours in their home leagues or in Europe. However not all players get a chance to play in these big clubs always moving onto the next hot property that always lends to some of them moving away from becoming disillusioned or wanting that pay increase. I don't see a lot of football now I am a dad of 2 little ones but I do know we have a better chance attracting and find them with a better manager and more money on the table for the potential selling club and the player themselves. When he hear release clauses of 60/70/80 million based on a budget suggested of 150/200 it is possible to bid for these players and not break the bank (if they want to move to you of course).

I was thinking about this actually. If you assume the likes of Kane etc. are well beyond us which they are who would people go for in the £50m or more sort of bracket to take us on very quickly? Obviously would need to be someone on the way up from France, Spain or Germany I guess. I am sure I read Arsenal want to move on Alexandre Lacazette who looking at his stats has been a 1-3 striker for them since he has been there, 29 this month good enough for us? Good buy depending on price? Depending on manager/formation etc you either need two strikers or a striker and a number 10, don't mind the idea of buying an older player in one position and a hot prospect in the other. However have to be realistic as some players will simply not move for money and want European football which we are no where near.

If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players.

A proven 1 in 3 striker proven as in more than one season or more than one team. Ideally we would have a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 number 10 to back them up but being very wishful. I also don't have any names but surely that is a realistic goal if spending around the 60/70 million mark again the budget spend is total guess work.

newcastle's released a statement no contact football allowed in phase one they set out the following: On Tuesday - by which time all test results will be known - players and staff will arrive at pre-arranged times staggered in groups of a maximum of ten players, with each working in groups of no more than five in separate areas of two pitches to allow for social distancing measures at all times. Players will arrive in their training kit, parking their cars at least three spaces apart, and will head straight out to the field, with no access to the main building. They will then leave immediately after training. All equipment - including balls, corner flags, cones, goalposts, GPS units, boots and gloves - will be regularly disinfected and players will wear protective snoods on their faces at all times.

may as well drag on till the end of Ramadan next Saturday so they can celebrate properly..............

in this thread it has to be the latter. whoops got me there, almost made that tweet ambiguous/negative good save!