Lotus

Despite his other present failings he's better in the air than Williamson!

I loved that. Me too !!!!!!!!

Nice back heel for Obertan.

W4 D1 L1 Liverpool Mackems Man City Chelsea Tottenham .. is a harsh run that could do for him. 5 points would be a good return. Given that we're not judging him on the Man City game surely it's not fair to judge against any other good sides either? Just the sh*t and average ones. Everyone pretty much accepted our season started after the Man City game. He wasn't going to be sacked off that result or anything. I said he has 8 games after it that will tell us if we're relegation bait or not. A decent haul against West Ham, Fulham, Villa, Hull, Everton & Cardiff would suggest we're not going to be struggling in relegation places all season. Which would be enough to keep Pardew in his job. For better or worse. However, with that draw in the league cup we now have 5 games following that are all REALLY difficult. Whatever has happened in the 8 preceding games, if he were to lose 5 on the bounce, there would be hell on, irrespective of the opponents, and the #Pardewout might get their wish. It turns out though that Man City weren't that hot at the start (lost to Cardiff and drew with Hull) it's just that we soooo bad that day. As the season's started now though and teams are finding their rhythm surely it's unfair to judge him against the other top sides? Like Liverpool, Man City (again), Spurs, Chelsea, etc. Because they'll be firing on all cylinders now. Great point for Hull that like. Brucie would have been delighted. Corrected just for you, Nobby.

Very next match they lost to Cardiff then a hard fought victory over Hull and then managed a draw against Stoke. We stank that day. Couldn't have been worse.

W4 D1 L1 Liverpool Mackems Man City Chelsea Tottenham .. is a harsh run that could do for him. 5 points would be a good return. Given that we're not judging him on the Man City game surely it's not fair to judge against any other good sides either? Just the sh*t and average ones. Everyone pretty much accepted our season started after the Man City game. He wasn't going to be sacked off that result or anything. I said he has 8 games after it that will tell us if we're relegation bait or not. A decent haul against West Ham, Fulham, Villa, Hull, Everton & Cardiff would suggest we're not going to be struggling in relegation places all season. Which would be enough to keep Pardew in his job. For better or worse. However, with that draw in the league cup we now have 5 games following that are all REALLY difficult. Whatever has happened in the 8 preceding games, if he were to lose 5 on the bounce, there would be hell on, irrespective of the opponents, and the #Pardewout might get their wish. It turns out though that Man City weren't that hot at the start (lost to Cardiff and drew with Stoke) it's just that we soooo bad that day. As the season's started now though and teams are finding their rhythm surely it's unfair to judge him against the other top sides? Like Liverpool, Man City (again), Spurs, Chelsea, etc. Because they'll be firing on all cylinders now.

Think i'd keep the same 11 (injuries permitting). Don't really have options tbh.

If i was a manager coming off an extremely bad season, had seen in the summer the owner appoint a DoF who described me as a 'decent bloke and a decent coach' (hardly a ringing endorsement) and i knew i had to get this season off to the best possible start because i think they want to sack me, Marveaux would not be a player i'd want to that outcome to depend on.

If he isn't being marked tight, and is allowed to collect the ball with no pressure, then yes, it isn't bad at all. However, many footballers can be respectable in such circumstances, many of whom aren't even professionals. Such conditions are few and far between if playing in any respectable league, which sucks for him and us. I agree. Think he isn't much good at all with his back to goal. And of late he's often been shooting from really stupid angles instead of looking for the better pass (outside foot through ball to a non anticipatory Gouf last night being an exception).

When he fills out a bit he'll be a lot stronger. Then he'll have a physical advantage and that is extremely useful in the Prem. He also hits the ball very well, nice contact. You can see it in his passing at times and his crosses. If he gets the rest of his game together he could be good. Quite a lot to do though.

Was a nice bend on the ball to take it past the Leeds player when he sent Sammy on his tbf! Other than that. Hope he keeps improving. Looks like he's at a stage when he might look like a decent Championship player and we wait and see if he can turn into a decent Prem player. Never going to be an absolute top quality FB, like. But there's plenty of players in the Prem who aren't either.

If AC was available surely it would have been better to bring him for an 'evaluation'. No need to evaluate Gabs...

W4 D1 L1 Liverpool Mackems Man City Chelsea Tottenham .. is a harsh run that could do for him. 5 points would be a good return. Given that we're not judging him on the Man City game surely it's not fair to judge against any other good sides either? Just the sh*t and average ones.

Wassup with Adam Campbell?

Looks like he's getting stronger which is good (and needed). Was too good for Leeds. Let's see if he can keep on improving to the point at which he can compete in the Prem.

He was better. At least he tried to be involved.

Eh? 1st time we've beat a lower league team within 90 mins under Pardew. Previous wins were all after ET (Scunthorpe, Forest). Err.....

sure he's been on MotD recently. Yeah, emptying the bins.

Lucas Radebe

? What is your question? If Moyes turned up here from Preston, got Newcastle their worst ever points tally and finished 17th, would this board not be in meltdown saying he's out of his depth and needs sacked? Personally i believe they wouldn't have give him a chance in hell to turn things around. Besides league position, you are ignoring all (every.single) factor that would determine whether or not this board would be in "meltdown". No i'm not, lowest ever points tally in the history of the club and a 17th place finish for a new young manager would certainly be getting labelled out of his depth and time to move on. Btw that wasn't the only time sections of Everton fans wanted him gone, their was other times too but the board did excellent to keep the faith in him and now he's managing the biggest club in the country. This is not me saying Pardew can be the next Moyes, i just think it's one bad season and we should be judging on this season to see if this side can bounce back, Everton and Moyes did, so can we. When they finished 17th which of their players should have been in a top 8 team? Also, what were the finances like? What was their recruitment policy? Ask Neil for that detail, all i know is regardless of that, he was 7th to 17th and our fans would have turned on him like savaged dogs because that's what we do. Pardew finished 5th and slumps to 16th and the whole city wants him crucified without even a shot of redemption. He's had half a season finished 12th, then up to 5th and now back down to 16th, ok we are at our lowest position under him but at least give him the chance to redeem himself, with the players at his disposal he can still make this work. He went from 5th to 16th which is even worse and SJP hasn't turned on him at all so you're talking complete and total bollox. With all due respect.

As will be the other 19 teams in the Prem this year. Financial peril awaits them all.

? What is your question? If Moyes turned up here from Preston, got Newcastle their worst ever points tally and finished 17th, would this board not be in meltdown saying he's out of his depth and needs sacked? Personally i believe they wouldn't have give him a chance in hell to turn things around. Besides league position, you are ignoring all (every.single) factor that would determine whether or not this board would be in "meltdown". No i'm not, lowest ever points tally in the history of the club and a 17th place finish for a new young manager would certainly be getting labelled out of his depth and time to move on. Btw that wasn't the only time sections of Everton fans wanted him gone, their was other times too but the board did excellent to keep the faith in him and now he's managing the biggest club in the country. This is not me saying Pardew can be the next Moyes, i just think it's one bad season and we should be judging on this season to see if this side can bounce back, Everton and Moyes did, so can we. When they finished 17th which of their players should have been in a top 8 team? Also, what were the finances like? What was their recruitment policy?

? What is your question? He hasn't got a f**king clue what his question is tbqph.

How could you argue that?

Yeah, they were 11th 8 years ago and 4th the year before that. Desperatley close to the edge. And the year before 4th they were 17th? So they went from 17th to 4th. I'm sure the team got a lot of stick for finishing 17th but they bounced back to show what they were capable of. My point still stands, a good team can have a bad season, we are a good team and we had a bad season, get over it. You seem to be struggling with the idea of where our club has been finishing for the last 6 years. We're not a top 6 team who had an unusually bad season last year, we're very much a lower table Prem (and table topping CC) team who had an unusually good year the one before that. Nothing wrong with optimism but when it actually means you completely ignore glaring facts it becomes idiocy.