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We're talking about shipping players out. That definitely happens under Mike Ashley's ownership. Rob Elliot, Karl Darlow, Ciaran Clark, Jacob Murphy, Isaac Hayden, Chancel Mbemba, Javier Manquillo and Mikel Merino have been squad players this season. You'd imagine Mbemba would want to leave to get game time. Some others might think the same. Some like Murphy and Merino are young players so will have more chances in future. Does Darlow want to spend a season on the bench? Massadio Haidara, Jesus Gamez and Curtis Good are out of contract and will be leaving. Mohamed Diame and Jack Colback have contract to Summer 2019. Henri Saivet, Rolando Aarons, Freddie Woodman, Jamie Sterry, Aleksandar Mitrovic, Matz Sels, Adam Armstrong, Achraf Lazaar, Jack Colback and Ivan Toney are all out on loan. Woodman will probably go out on loan again next season. I'd say the same for Armstrong. NUFC will probably try to sell Saivet, Sels, Lazaar and Colback. Maybe Aarons, Sterry and Toney too. Rafa doesn't seem to rate Mitrovic so he's probably going to be sold. I'm sure there will be quite a few outgoings in the Summer. The players who can't be sold will be loaned out again. That's the problem with putting players on Premiership wages with long contracts. If it doesn't work out for them in the Premiership they're hard to move on.

Sels cost £5m and has done okay out on loan. You'd think we'll find a buyer for him assuming he'll take a pay cut. Sels and Lazaar we're bought when we were in the Championship so I guess their wages aren't Premiership level.

I've seen Fernando Torres mentioned in the media as he's leaving Atlético Madrid. He's 34 now so I would hope we went for someone whose best days were ahead of them not behind them. I guess he'll probably go to the USA or China.

You'd think he'd have guessed you were a Mag going by the look of delight on your face as you looked at the bottom of the Championship table.

If Messi and Ronaldo played for NUFC ReadyToGo forum Mackems would say they were shite players.

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/reading-fc-v-sunderland-afc.1426464/page-40

Mackems say nobody in the media care about SAFC. They've got their own Netflix show! They're worldwide! What more do they want? *What a shame it comes during one of their worst times ever. https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/391467/sunderlands-disastrous-championship-season-to-be-shown-in-netflix-behind-the-scenes-tv-documentary/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6038524/sunderland-netflix-championship-docu-series/ https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/netflix-documentary-about-safc-in-the-summer.1426321/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43739758

"6 in a row, FTM"

Atsu couldn't get ahead of Gouffran in Rafa's Championship team but had been a regular starter (until Kenedy was loaned) in the Premiership. Maybe something similar will happen to Murphy.

Loaning players to teams at the bottom of their league or newly promoted teams doesn't seem to end well for our players. Not many loan players show their best in struggling teams.

I'd assume it's a rarity for all the promoted clubs to stay up if it happens. All the lazy media pundits always predict relegation for the promoted clubs. There isn't much difference between the top Championship clubs and the bottom half Premiership clubs these days.

Mitro cost NUFC £13m a couple of years ago. He's in great goal scoring form since he went to Fulham. Transfer fees have gone even crazier since we bought him. He's 23 and on a long contract. Some Championship clubs are now paying £15m for strikers. NUFC should easily get £20m at least for Mitro if Rafa wants to sell him. Could even risk loaning him out again if we didn't need the money as he may appreciate in value.

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/league-one.1424968/ They still talk of keeping the derby record even though it's by default. It's like playing a game of tag with someone who hurls themselves into the mouth of a volcano to avoid being tagged back. If they went into liquidation they'd hold the record forever!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43183688 That last quote sounds exactly like something Pardew would say himself.

Mego went unbeaten in two and got a point at Wembley - definitely worth a shout. Be class if Moore gets a couple of futile wins before the season is out to really show Pards up. Not if it's against NUFC. These games probably just got harder for West Brom's opposition: - Saturday 7th April West Bromwich Albion Vs Swansea City Sunday 15th April Manchester United Vs West Bromwich Albion Sunday 22nd April West Bromwich Albion Vs Liverpool Saturday 28th April Newcastle United Vs West Bromwich Albion Saturday 5th May West Bromwich Albion Vs Tottenham Hotspur Sunday 13th May Crystal Palace Vs West Bromwich Albion

Of course he can - the club is a 100% subsidiary of the holding company that he owns. He could distribute as much money as he wants up to himself at any time. My understanding of running a company is you can't personally just take money out and pay it into your personal bank account without getting absolutely hammered with tax. Now he could pay expenses to his other companies but if it was e.g. £20m to PR firm, £20m to Sports Direct, etc those figures have to be justified to HMRC. As far as selling NUFC, surely when he values the club at £300m that's with £0 in the bank account. I suppose if NUFC bank £100m in the Summer he can ask for £400m. Personally I doubt he'll find a buyer (I hope I'm wrong and we get a good owner/s). I can see him being stuck with NUFC but 'allowing' the club to run as a business so if there's £100m in the bank Rafa's budget would be from that after the usual expenses. Not really. Yes you pay tax on personal distributions but if he wanted to move money up it would likely be ultimately paid to MASH Holdings. The company would pay corporation tax on receipt of that distribution but that wouldn't be overly punitive. I work in corporate law and there are a number of ways that MA could then structure a distribution from topco to himself while not getting too hamstrung by tax issues. MA probably wouldn't elect to distribute anything to himself as he doesn't really have any incentive to do that right now, but that's not to say he couldn't take money out of the club at any time without much in the way of consequence. Fair enough. The £120m (or whatever it is) 'loan' he (MASH Holdings?) paid into NUFC could be repaid back out of NUFC's bank account using the TV money. That wouldn't make much football sense to do that but that's never stopped him before.

Nah its fine if you get hammered The experts in the media get to use their prepared script if you get tanked by Man City. Rafa upset the pundits by setting us up not to get dicked.

Of course he can - the club is a 100% subsidiary of the holding company that he owns. He could distribute as much money as he wants up to himself at any time. My understanding of running a company is you can't personally just take money out and pay it into your personal bank account without getting absolutely hammered with tax. Now he could pay expenses to his other companies but if it was e.g. £20m to PR firm, £20m to Sports Direct, etc those figures have to be justified to HMRC. As far as selling NUFC, surely when he values the club at £300m that's with £0 in the bank account. I suppose if NUFC bank £100m in the Summer he can ask for £400m. Personally I doubt he'll find a buyer (I hope I'm wrong and we get a good owner/s). I can see him being stuck with NUFC but 'allowing' the club to run as a business so if there's £100m in the bank Rafa's budget would be from that after the usual expenses.

If we stay up, Ashley can't just pocket the £100m TV money from the club. It's the clubs money in the club's accounts. The owner can't just empty the bank balance and then sell. I hope he'll let the club operate on the money it has (which is supposedly always his idea how it finances itself). That's one of the reasons the budget this year was so low. In theory there will be £100m or so before expenses available in the Summer.

He'd had a good season at Nice. He should have stayed there obviously. He's been frozen out at PSG. Let's see who the next club are willing to gamble on him. I'm sure there will be one but I doubt they'll risk giving him a multi year mega money contract. That'll be due to his age not his ability, no? He hasn't played week in week out like a lot of players so the stresses on his body will have been less than for other 31 year old players. He's had long spells of not playing. Also, do you not accept that the fact that he usually leaves his clubs under a cloud won't have some influence on a club employing him?

He'd had a good season at Nice. He should have stayed there obviously. He's been frozen out at PSG. Let's see who the next club are willing to gamble on him. I'm sure there will be one but I doubt they'll risk giving him a multi year mega money contract.

Where he ends up and how long a contract that club give him will be a great indicator of how he's thought of in the world of football.

Matt LeBlanc has a Twitter account. Someone with a Twitter account tweet him to ask him what specifically he doesn't like about the food in the UK.

The punishment for 'football fans' committing crimes often seems less severe than for other people.