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It's quite simple, there are two options: Convince yourself that we've got no chance and spend the whole week miserable Or delude yourself for a week and keep the faith I find the latter preferable.

It's just bound to happen isn't it. Poetic justice as in Butt breaking his leg with a slide tackle for handing in a transfer request?

Agree with the first three.People seem to forget we would be no where without Keegan.Heading for the old third divison when he took over,2 seasons later 3rd in the premiership.Owens a w***** but there is 10 other players on the pitch I've never denied that Keegan gave all of this to us, but he's played an instrumental part it taking it all away too. Granted, this is probably an argument that will never be resolved. As for Owen, when there's a palpable lack of leadership in the changing room driving everyone's morale to the ground, it's quite obviously the money-grabbing useless want-away captain's fault.

It was never going to work out for him up here once we sacked Big Sam unfortunately. Just wish we didn't peddle him to a team that would end up being one of our relegation rivals.

If I had to choose a top 5: Freddy Shepherd, Graeme Souness, Mike Ashley, Kevin Keegan, Michael Owen

Where at? I might be headed over into the I-drive area around Disney - usually lots of British people in the pubs around those parts, there's bound to be a few Newcastle fans to suffer through it with. Boston

Damnit, some tout website has away end tickets up for 250 quid a piece. And I'm seriously considering it.

Is there anyone in the US East Coast who might be interested in suffering through this together?

I'm not worried about Milner, it's the likes of Carew and Young we won't be able to handle physically. Milner has been far more effective than Ashley Young for several months now, he's doing really well. Hopefully we won't see the utter f***ing madness of him being played at RB again (that'll be Gardener if Luke Young isn't fit). Know what I'd do if i were one of your ilk without a ticket this weekend? Turn the radio and telly off. Go for a walk or something. Smoke furiously. If you don't smoke, start. Just do something else for 90 minutes, come back in, turn on the telly and get it over and done with. im seriously toying with that idea. That is exactly what I'm going to do, can stand that level of stress. I'm seriously pondering a vacation in Las Vegas with some mates if a ticket to the match doesn't magically drop into my lap within the next few days. Blowing my annual Toon Travel fund on Blackjack should be enough to take my mind off the match. would they let you in to the USA? I'm already there?

I just think the "Premiership Era" distinction is significant because clubs that were "too big to be relegated" simply didn't exist before it. I see what you mean, but disagree. You're right in that nowadays, the financial aspect has cushioned big clubs against relegation far more than they ever were before, but even back then the "too big to go down" thing still existed. In my life time I remember Man United in the second division. When we went down to the third, it was unthinkable. My great grandad used to tell me that when we first went down to the second, it was unthinkable. You'd know better than I do I suppose.

I'm not worried about Milner, it's the likes of Carew and Young we won't be able to handle physically. Milner has been far more effective than Ashley Young for several months now, he's doing really well. Hopefully we won't see the utter f***ing madness of him being played at RB again (that'll be Gardener if Luke Young isn't fit). Know what I'd do if i were one of your ilk without a ticket this weekend? Turn the radio and telly off. Go for a walk or something. Smoke furiously. If you don't smoke, start. Just do something else for 90 minutes, come back in, turn on the telly and get it over and done with. im seriously toying with that idea. That is exactly what I'm going to do, can stand that level of stress. I'm seriously pondering a vacation in Las Vegas with some mates if a ticket to the match doesn't magically drop into my lap within the next few days. Blowing my annual Toon Travel fund on Blackjack should be enough to take my mind off the match.

I just think the "Premiership Era" distinction is significant because clubs that were "too big to be relegated" simply didn't exist before it.

Just in terms of name recognition/size of fanbase/cultural significance though, there has never been a club anywhere near the size of Newcastle United that has been relegated in the Premiership era. I'd actually find this situation kind of interesting if it wasn't affecting me directly.

If only I could get a god damn ticket for this match

Hiddink saving us from relegation and sending Sunderland last day. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that there would be a way to make me love the man even more

Oh dear...

alright lads, all you have to do is win one game of football and all is forgiven. One fucking game of football. It's not that hard.

Surely all of this season has been part of an elaborate plan from God to test our faith and then reward us with the sweetest result possible on the last day ...I hope

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck. We are living in the Matrix and Newcastle United is what the robots created to punish those who tried to escape.

I'd wager he's played our last game for us, regardless of what division we're in.

I'd like to think that the squad that plays the first game of next season in the Championship will be pretty much unrecognizable, so it's really impossible to say at this point.

oh Jesus Christ not this again, not now.

It is really very, very simple. A big club who you wouldn't expect to be in this situation is, well, in this situation, so people scent blood. if it were Man City or Everton or us (for others) or Chelsea, or even Spurs, the reaction would be exactly the same. Football is about lots of things, most of them tribal, and laughing at the misfortune of others is one of the main ones. very good point. i guess if it was spurs or the likes i would be thinking the same had we not been in this position now. knowing how i feel at the minute, i'll never laugh again at a club going down, its probably the worst i have ever felt, and i meant that. agree with your points though, its just the way it is i guess. Exactly what I've been thinking for the past couple of days

Elsewhere, Hull fans are probably complaining that they have to play against a Man U bench players who will be desperate to secure a place in the CL finals squad while we get to go against a demoralized Villa squad with absolutely nothing to play for.

shit players + instability + bad luck + evil refs + injuries = relegation We're just following the script to the last 't'