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this club is infamous for kicking up a shitstorm exactly when the supporters start expecting some stability. Would be refreshing if we actually did some good business exactly when everyone's expecting a complete disaster.

The Zog is gone. Owen will see out his contract. I think he's an honorable man, or at least likes to think that he is one, and will want to do the "honorable" thing. We're never getting him to sign a new one though.

Can't be bothered to do the quote box thing. Zog was mediocre~shit every time he came on the pitch in 06/07, look through old match threads and see some of the comments. If I recall correctly, he got plenty of time in the first half of the season until he fell out with roeder and barely played again for the rest of it. Zog had exactly three good games in 07/08, the ones you mentioned: Bolton(H), Boro(A), and West Ham (H). I don't know what went on after that, whether he fell out with Allardyce, or went into "I don't want to be here anymore" mode, but he disappeared after that, going completely anonymous along with the rest of the useless fuckers. LB is his secondary position. He plays it for the French U21 team. He should at least be moderately competent there. Seriously, "Ronaldo in goal?" have a word. As incompetent as we may like to think Roeder/Allardyce/Kinnear are, they are professional football managers. They know far more about football than keyboard warriors like us ever will, and have access to training sessions, something we don't. I'm willing to concede that one manager may get something wrong that the forum gets right, but all three of them PLUS Kevin Keegan? Seriously?

still yes for me.

either one of you are free to tell me how any one bit of that is factually wrong.

He played extensive minutes in 06/07 because of Duff's (and our entire squad's) injury woes. Roeder played him on the left, the right, and the center. He was utter, utter, unmitigated shit. He played plenty of games again in 07/08. Allardyce played him at left back which is not admittedly his best position, but he was stunted going forward and useless defensively. He contributed nothing. Keegan played him briefly, but he had no part in our end of the season resurgence. This season he's been even worse at left back than he was in 07/08. He has contributed absolutely nothing to the club since his spell in 05/06. All of this has been accompanied by whining to the tabloids and asking for a transfer every single transfer window and falling out in some form with every manager that's been here. Is it really realistic to think that Roeder, Allardyce, Keegan, and Kinnear, who all see him in training, see him playing close-up, know him personally, and know far more about football than we ever will are all simply deluded idiots, and that the fans are the only ones who see his talent? I think he's simply of a case of potential going to waste because of bad attitude. I won't shed a tear when he leaves.

I admire the fact he doesn't bitch and moan like Jose, he just accepts ref's in charge and that's it. Quick thought would anyone on here take Geovanni? He's only on a one year at Hull. Ummm... Yes?

Will we be releasing a DVD for this when we win then?

Isn't it only Spanish and French? Or were you counting Given in that.

Dear me I can't believe I'm saying this, but Oba needs to come off for Ameobi.

I honestly have no idea how or why that offside was given. But... who cares.

looks like we're going to make this last till the 80th minute again so I can't stop watching.

Change of thread title to "will JFK be permanent after Chelsea?"

In some ways I'm not sure why Jonas has to be a winger. The way I see it, he's got the physicality, work rate, and distribution to play through the middle. And he doesn't seem to like running on the touchline and swinging in crosses anyway. Not necessarily the best of ideas to have our best player switch the position he's been playing for all his life.. But still, food for thought.

Has Duff been taking classes on "how to become unpopular on the message boards?"

needless to say, we have very little chance of attracting any players as long as the ownership situation remains unsettled and we haven't got a permanent manager.

I wake up from a coma tomorrow. Turns out everything from the end of last season was just hallucination. Keegan never walked out, and he's getting along just fine with Ashley/Wise/Jimenez/Vertre. Chairman Chris Mort is doing a smashing job running the club. We're 7th on the table behind Villa and Everton. Jonas got player of the month for November after terrorizing Fulham and Wigan's defenses playing through the center of the pitch in Keegan's new 4-3-3. Nile Ranger is averaging a hat trick in the U18 and Reserve leagues, and KK has just gone on another rant about how Wenger is "tapping him up." We're on course to finish top half. The fans have never been more optimistic. It's a good time to be a Newcastle fan.

I give up.

In the end it just seems like the media making a big deal out of nothing, and not actually signs of some bigger changes coming at the club. Just another pointless rumor.

Sack wise, appoint Shearer, and get on with things. This seems to be the best alternative if selling the club turns out to be impossible, and I honestly don't think there's a better managerial fit than Shearer that is realistically available for us. I would want him even if we had new owner(s) So, in other words,

Oneywu has always been a mystery to me. He didn't seem spectacular when he was with us but always thought he might be worth another look, yet two years gone and no-one in a major European league has touched him. Is he that bad? The lad's fucking huge, you'd think a couple Premier league teams (*cough* Stoke... *cough*) would be willing to offer him a contract on that basis alone.

How i wish we could just have an official announcement instead of all these cryptic statements from everyone who is in any way connected to the club.

If you could have one player back that we sold in the past two transfer windows, (excluding the ones that are terrible/too old/Babayaro/Carr) who would it be? Scott Parker just been called up for England again. And while we can all agree that he has his limitations, (horrible distribution, those "stupid pirouette things", and of course, telling your own fans to f*** off) his hard-tackling all-action style seems like precisely what we're lacking in midfield right now. He'd also be a goal threat from midfield, something none of our current players seem to be capable of. God knows we'd at least all rather have him than Nicky Butt. Kieron Dyer is probably the best footballer on this list. Unfortunately, I think West Ham would be the ones wanting him back never mind us. Emre is probably similar to Dyer in that he's a good influence to the team whenever he plays. Good luck with that though. Then again, considering that we've "replaced" him with the even-less reliable Nacho, his presence is missed. Reliable central defenders are a commodity sorely lacking in our current squad, as we've been forced to recognize over the past couple of weeks. One can only wonder how many points we wouldn't have dropped if Abdoulaye Faye hadn't fallen out with Keegan. Oguchi Oneywu's physicality could also be an asset in our current backline, although I suppose if he was capable of playing in the Premiership he'd already be here by now. I think we'll all agree that the less said about Bramble or Rozhenal (can't even be bothered to spell his name right anymore,) the better. Finally, it's hard not to mention our twelve-million-pound man, James Milner. While his price tag certainly justifies his departure, he would have been a useful squad member and more often than not better than Duff.

Wouldn't it be simpler for them to just order longer shorts or something?