mrmojorisin75

"This is the biggest job in club football" see he's got a sense of humour then

it'll be something to do with the deal they signed with ashley and co man, pay the money and let them sell us a generic pile of shit based on ashley's assessment of NUFC fans gullibility or something, who cares; it's shit

it's F-U-C-K-I-N-G shit quite like the simple black training top colo is wearing though, it's OK

Posted in another thread that's the way to go, personally i don't think it'll ever win us a WC as the South Americans would eat it up but it might be enough to fluke a Euro's a la Manu & Chelski getting good results in the CL by playing a high tempo physical game. Eventually class will tell but we're more likely to succeed playing our way than pretending to be Italy and failing.

Delighted Ronaldo has been shat out of the tournament too, if i were Portuguese I'd be as angry at him as people are with Rooney - perhaps more so. Everytime I saw him this WC he looked like he's been totally found out at International level. Just get in front of him, stop him getting past you, he's going to react by shooting from long range every time. Never looks for a team mate or a slide rule ball through or anything. It's all about Ronaldo!!

very true

Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand and Terry will all still be around as will Rooney. Not a manager on the planet who'd cull the lot of them imo. Everyone outside of football is going apeshit right now but it's very rare in football that such a reaction would ever be forthcoming, especially when the dust settles. It'll be piecemeal as these things always are, probably drop the Lennons/Heskey's etc and try to replace them slowly but surely. Not saying I wouldn't decimate the current team, just saying England won't. Lampard will be 34 when the euros come around. Maybe pushing it a bit, especially for the next world cup. Dropping Lennon? Probably our best winger at the moment and still young. If we persist with players like Lennon we'll continue to fail. They're alright for the cut and thrust of the PL gung-ho football but they always get found out at International level. SWP the same. We need some thinkers in there, some people who can actually play intelligent football, not just run very fast. I would, however, support keeping the likes of Lennon and Walcott as players to throw on to try and change a game, never in a million years should we be planning to start them though.

Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand and Terry will all still be around as will Rooney. Not a manager on the planet who'd cull the lot of them imo. Everyone outside of football is going apeshit right now but it's very rare in football that such a reaction would ever be forthcoming, especially when the dust settles. It'll be piecemeal as these things always are, probably drop the Lennons/Heskey's etc and try to replace them slowly but surely. Not saying I wouldn't decimate the current team, just saying England won't.

England.

he's the man to lead us onwards and upwards then i see...fucking hell

good post, different perspective, like it difference is holland and spain have both won things (major tournaments) in my lifetime...england are getting further away it seems but it's a very good post nonetheless

doesn't look good on paper does it? one of the most doomed to fail appointments i can think of

Yah I take your point, a semi final exit with a decent showing might have been acceptable to the critics. But my point stands, had the team not achieved what was deemed acceptable, then regardless of whatever decision Capello had taken, the critics/media would have said that he was wrong and should have done the opposite. I don't know about you, but many who are saying he should brought the younger players would have then blamed him for not going with experienced Champion League players. You can almost see the headline "Capello naive boys humiliated against experienced Brazil"....etc. I suspect that bold decisions like dropping Rooney (had it not worked out) would have subjected him to even more poisonous criticism. agreed, he either won the thing or was fucked either way on that front probably 2 ways two go now: (1) let Capello tear this squad apart and rebuild over the next 2 tournaments see where we are or (2) let someone else do it if there's no confidence in Capello within the existing players who will still be around like Rooney (3) not tearing apart the squad ain't an option surely? there's no point sticking with him if he doesn't have the players now, or if he doesn't feel he's got the balls for an overhaul job...i'd like to believe he picked this squad hoping the established players would perform and knowing it was too early on all fronts to replace half the squad in this world cup, if he see's it as a long term job he might do what needs doing now danger with a new guy is we get another 4 years of Terry/Lamard/Gerrard/SWP/Barry and all the other shit that screwed the pooch this time

While i don't think the English style of play is ever likely to beat a good continental or South American one at international level one area i feel Capello and probably Sven have screwed the pooch is trying to make England play like Italy or someone, with a lower tempo game. We have particular strengths as a footballing nation and not playing to them is suicidal. The Germans played the game we should have played to be honest, fast paced and using width well. What the fuck Capello's plan was I'd love to know.

this is the key isn't it, and despite increasingly competent managers at increasingly ridiculous cost it appears a very difficult thing to do once every 2 years (inc. Euros) when they come up against better technical and tactical opponents the small amount of quality gets us through most times in qualifying and groups but explains why we lose against continental/south american teams...they're just fuckin better than us in all departments

Another cracking front cover from The Sun haha Great photo on the Times supplement, though. The Mail fucking hell

I think the foreign players thing is important but I also think, having watched the same shit again, that England have no style nor pattern of play and never really have done. It's a lurch from one game of kick and rush to the next. Less foreign players in your league isn't going to solve that. Continental sides are simply far superior technically and tactically so England either accept this and continue in the same vein, i.e. hoping pace & power can overcome better technique as it sometimes does, or someone needs to take a long view and sit down and think about it. Not sure what the answer is myself but one thing that would certainly help us is to send more of our players abroad to play. Had the nucleus of the team including Gerrard/Lampard/Rooney (bit early for him mind) et al been playing in Europe week in week out we'd have seen a very different England if you ask me. Our national team epitomises our country in many senses, parochial and self-involved, sure of our own importance and destiny. It's a shame we actually have to play against other teams really. EDIT: forgot to say that some of the most promising football I remember with England was when Hargreaves was a mainstay, he added something different, an air of thought and intelligence if you like...the idea that keeping possession should be held in high regard. Such a shame he's a cripple, even one player like him could have made a huge difference imo

as is playing as high a line as they did with Terry and Upson's pace to get them out of trouble...

it's a good point, messi's quality was compounded by his unselfishness - if he becomes another ronaldo he'll be easier to play...if someone is ALWAYS going to try and score in football it's easier to stop than a person who might shoot/pass and can do either nothing to worry about for mess with me, he just might not slot into it as well for argentina as well as he does for barca

Anybody else and they'd have been dropped by now. you two are f***ed, utterly f***ed if you believe that He's played bad for four games and players who play bad should be dropped until they earn their place back in the team. What's 'fucked' about that? "squad" was used actually, not team, and i'll refer you to Alan Shearer circa 1996 for an explanation. In football you don't just abandon your best player(s) due to a temporary loss in form. Everything in Rooney's career to date suggested he would have put in a performance sooner or later. Later never came. But then maybe you're right, if Heskey or Crouch had of started then things would have been very different I'm sure.

Lots of questions to be answered though. If he was picking players based on form alone why pick Heskey ahead of Bent? If he was picking players based on loyalty to the players who qualified us why not pick Walcott? Why was there no room for younger players who ended the season well like Johnson? Why was there no plan B? Why did we make so many like-for-like substitutions? Why didn't we practice any different tactics in the warm-up games? Why were Lampard and Gerrard shoehorned into the same midfield AGAIN? Et cetera. you're clearly missing the point, which is: why was we robbed? again

No chance, Woodgate has all of Terry's weaknesses. And he's an even bigger prick. nonsense, utter nonsense - woodgate would have been one of the finest defenders in the country's history if it wasn't for his injuries dickhead yeah, but in terms of ability is in a different league to terry

agreed, but 20m+ is a lot to piss away if you don't have to and probably believe in yourself to be fair, how many managers is this now with how many "golden generations"?

So you genuinely think Rooney is better than David Villa and Drogba? he's probably top 10 at best, but the point stands - bad stretch of games at the wrong time however, one thing Rooney has to correct, and quick, is his fucking attitude - remember when Shearer didn't score for 12 games for '96? he wasn't standing about with his hands on his hips blaming other people for his his mistakes something has gone in that boys head and it needs righting, quick...reminds me a little of how he left everton...felt they turned on him so he never so much as looked back, if he feels the press and fans have done the same for england he might never come back He's only scared of Sir Alex. maybe a factor