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Right now Stan Laurel or Sideshow Bob would be an upgrade. I can't see us looking past has beens though unfortunately. I honestly don't believe Kinear is in the running, that would just be a health and safety / Risk assessment nightmare with his ill health. An up and coming young manager, with an attacking pedigree and something to prove, not bothered about nationality either.

He's had all confidence sapped from him, he's lost it and needs a good manager to get him playing the right way again. Though not quite comparable, look at that patch Shearer had before Bobby came in, he saw what was wrong, got Shearer facing the goal again and the right service, 2 games in and he hits 5 past Wednesday! The same can be said about half the squad, get the right manager in and we'll see a few players regain lost form. A lot of players in our squad look like shadows of the form they were in when they were bought, Cisse for some reason is the worst afflicted.

Has he not still got 8 matches of that ban left?

Honestly the worst I've felt about this team in the 20 years I've supported. At least in the times of Gullit, Dogleash and Souness there was always a light at the end of the tunnel. It was a cold hard slog and depressing at times but we knew it was only a matter of time before Fat Fred exercised that itchy trigger finger. This is relentless, there's no end in sight, he gets away with one embarrassment after another with a half decent game sandwiched in between. What does this clueless cnut have to do to get the chop?!? Fuck it!

I'm a long suffering supporter from Blackpool and don't get to many games, but even I wouldn't shop in his shitty little bargain basements.

That's 90 minutes of my life I won't get back! Felt cruel on Swansea at the end though, didn't deserve that, but a fair result to a shite match.

Littered with irony. That's just an embarrassing thread!

This Swans game is depressingly dull! The passing is terrible!!

That's the main issue for me, how Pardew approaches the game, if he bottles it or tries to steifel the game and defend a slender lead then we're gonna come unstuck. A fearless attacking display, which we're more than capable of and we'll see this with ease. I'm only nervous about Pardews mind set.

We can't expect to compete with the likes of the financial powerhouse that is Palace ffs

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ryhs37.jpg Rounding principals up to the nearest percent doesn't give a fair representative

Not as good as actually signing big kit deals with Adidas or big sponsorshipr deals like we had with Northern Rock/NTL etc. Nha, lets be bamps. Why sign lucrative deals with sponsorships when you can peddle your own tacky trash for free? Just more excuses to make more personal gain and reduce club costs in the interest of SD.

It's getting cold, wet and dark early, isn't it time for his annual vacation "home"?

Oi, oi, stuck in work today wtf is going on here like??

I can't believe this is still up for debate, obviously it's ultimately Ashley's fault for being so short sighted and giving Pardew an 8 year contract after one season that he perceived as sustainable. However that doesn't excuse Pardews ineptitude and only he can be blamed for a group of internationals not performing to the sum of its parts. A fully fit Newcastle United should be a handful for ANY team in the league, bollocks we can't expect to compete against the top teams, we should have enough in our "locker" to give anyone a game. Sadly we fall short on too many occasions and are seen to be competing in the third tier of the premier league.

Cisse isn't, or has ever been a class forward, he is however a decent one. We were spoilt with his rich vein of luck, but though he's not as good as he showed then, he sure as hell not as bad as he looks now. Pardew clearly doesn't know what to do with him and how to get him out of this slump, therefor the best option right now is to drop him and give Gouffran his run in that spot. Let him earn his place back in the squad and maybe he'll get the kick up the arse he obviously needs. He'll come good again, I feel it may need a new manager for him to do so though.

He's still shit then?

What's the alternative? How anyone can look at Pardew's managerial record and suggest he's going to improve is beyond me. I understand what you're saying, but even with an owner with zero ambition you can have a young ambitious manager who can use what he has at his disposal. I don't expect us to be getting the likes of Hiddink or poaching Wenger from Arsenal, however we could hope for someone even marginally better than Pardew. He can't be the best we can hope for under the constraints we have. I'm not saying you can't hope. I'm just saying I've got none. I just don't think Ashley is in the least bit interested beyond keeping us afloat - which this year Pardew will. Not that I'm pointing at you but it just seems some are willing to hope that Pardew can get better but not hope that we could hire an improvement on him. Baffling! Though I don't blame you for feeling ambivalent it's the best we can hope for right now IMHO.

I hope this guys ip has been logged and traced cuz if this isn't true it's a suicide attempt!

What's the alternative? How anyone can look at Pardew's managerial record and suggest he's going to improve is beyond me. I understand what you're saying, but even with an owner with zero ambition you can have a young ambitious manager who can use what he has at his disposal. I don't expect us to be getting the likes of Hiddink or poaching Wenger from Arsenal, however we could hope for someone even marginally better than Pardew. He can't be the best we can hope for under the constraints we have.

First season was lucky, last season was unlucky, both are unsustainable. Pardew isn't the man to make this team a sustainable force, we're going nowhere under him and 45 mins of false dawn football once every other match won't make me think otherwise. Like I said yesterday NUFC deserves better and I don't think we should be settling for less on the back of a few half arsed wins!

Agree for the most part. Mike Ashley is the main problem. Aye, Pardew is a symptom, Ashley is the disease. Canning Pardew for the most part is akin to sticking a plaster on it, it'll work for now but won't make it go away. Cut the cancer out at the root and it'll all get better!

I did vote for FML but it doesn't mean I think we'll get relegated, I think we'll flirt with it and we'll scrape through by the skin of our teeth again, unless something changes. It's going to be a long laborious season with more downs than ups. We'll never boss a game with this charlatan in charge and even our wins will be painful, as we saw yesterday. Could have easily bossed that game but were rattled, scared and disjointed for most of the second half. I can see us getting dry humped over the next few matches and slip down the table.