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It's Sunderlands fault.

Nice easy three points.

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1227633,00.html NEWCASTLE United announces that Dennis Wise has agreed to join the Club in the role of Executive Director (Football). Also joining the Club are Tony Jimenez as Vice President (Player Recruitment) and Jeff Vetere, who joins from Real Madrid in the position of Technical Co-ordinator. Dennis will assist the Board on football-related matters, including the development of the Club's Academy and player recruitment. He will report to the Chairman.Tony and Jeff will also assist in player recruitment. The arrival of these three new recruits follows on from the recent appointment of Kevin Keegan as manager. Kevin will be responsible for all matters related to the First Team. Chairman Chris Mort said: "This is all part of the vision that recently helped us to secure Kevin Keegan's return to the Club as manager. "Two of the conclusions of our strategic review, since acquiring the Club, were that the Club would benefit from having a football person involved at Board level, which it has not had historically, and that further senior resources are needed for recruiting players of the highest quality from this country and further afield. "Dennis would like to move away from day-to-day football management to a Board role and, with his considerable energy and intelligence, we believe he will do very well in this new position. "With Kevin able to devote his efforts to developing and running the first team squad, Dennis, Tony and Jeff will each help us to secure success for Newcastle United Football Club at all levels and for the long-term. One or two further key appointments will follow in the months ahead." x 1000 The first bit in bold implies that KK has/had total control but its sort of watered down by the second. Ambiguous at best. Wonder if this was intentional or just a coincidence? What was Mort's profession? Lawyer i rest my case ORDER IN THE COURT!

Cheers. I just haven't had anyone really read it over and give feedback so was trying to get some of you lot to.

The fans are making him one imo.

I know this will get shot down in flames but I wrote a Toon Ultras article for The Mag, not sure if it is getting put forward yet by the lad in contact with Mark but here it is below. Please bare in mind it is written from a Toon Ultra perspective.

The magazine is called 'True Faith' not 'Blind Faith'. I appreciate what you're saying, but people are being far too pessimistic about the realistic issue that we are in and the bit of optimism I have (and many others may have) is the only thing keeping our 'support' supportive. I'm hoping come the Sunderland game the atmosphere is going to be that sort of defiant magic we've seen a few times (I'm mostly remembering games against Arsenal, for some reason) from the crowd. One of those games where everyone forgets the s**** around the club and focuses everything they have on what it's all about at the end of the day: the football. Obviously everyone is royally f***ed off with how things are going and how things have been, but if we can get some venom and direct it towards the Mackems and really get the players in black and white brimming it could be a magical occasion. Might define the season, so I'm praying we don't buckle. If things go badly against them and we haven't made any waves in the market then I'm absolutely dreading the repercussions. Exactly, If we were to get beat and we hadn;t signed anyone imagine the embarassing displays that would occur outside The Milburn Stand and how much satisfaction it would give he SMB's!! We cannot afford to crumble, because if we do we'll go down, we need that defiance that you're talking about and Iam sure we have it in us, but the more pessimism that there is the more likely we are to achieve failure rather than success

dont give him your money, if everyone does that he'll be forced into either selling or pulling his finger out So what if he is skint? Then how are we going to buy and improve? Also, who would want to buy a club where there are no ticket sales, no merchandise being sold, no quality squad, no quality manager or coaching staff, etc? The most realistic solution is to weather the storm, and instead of pushing parts of the club apart we need to all pull together and gain some stability, financially, in a positional sense in the table and in a moral sense.

The magazine is called 'True Faith' not 'Blind Faith'. I appreciate what you're saying, but people are being far too pessimistic about the realistic issue that we are in and the bit of optimism I have (and many others may have) is the only thing keeping our 'support' supportive.

I agree no-one int he right mind shoudl want to come to us, but I think Kinnear and Wise are just doing the jobs to the best of their ability, the problem lies both at the very top and the very bottom of the club, not in the middle.

Talk ourlselves in to a crisis ?open yer fooking eyes man, we have Joe kinnear as manager and Denis wise in charge of bringing payers to the club. That sure looks like a crisis to me! Dennis Wises signings haven't been all that bad tbf. He has done his job in my eyes. The worst thing is he is an arrogant cockney shit and that's why everyone is so against him. It's Ashleys doing really, not Wises. The only difference with Keegan in charge was the fact we had confidence and stability, without the stability we have lacked confidence. Joe Kinnear is trying his best with the players he acquire dbut he has a team not a squad. If I am totally honest I doubt we would have been in a much better position if Keegan were in charge and if he did have the same amount of money as Wise appeared to get to spend. Xisco and a loan deal for Gonzalez are the only two who didn't go quite right, one through injury and the other has barely had a chance. Bassong, Guthrie and Jonas have all been good additions, as has Coloccini.

For a magazine named True Faith it doesn't show much backing towards anything like. It all sounds a bit knee-jerk, and almost exaggerates everything. Our defense or attack for that matter wouldn't be all that bad if we had a midfield, we have a number of players out too. When we have a fully fit squad we have a decent team, but our squad is paper thin so one or two injuries and we are f***ed. What we need is 2 or 3 quality midfielders and cover at left and right back. If Kinnear has set out for a solid CM then he obviously knows where we are weakest. Don't get me wrong JFK is far from the answer and aye his tactics can be absurd, but we aren't in half as bad a situation as you would think reading that...not yet anyways. If there was ever a time the players needed us then the time is now, because you can guarentee if we are in this situation leading into the end of the season then everyone arond us will be pulling together 110% fans and players...we need to form that bond beore it't too late and we go down!

No, it wont be any less. Because maybe we can get rid of alot of the prawn sarny brigade, get lower priced tickets for younger kids to get in with their parents and get our old support back. 36,000 in the lower part of the stadium with everyone who wants to sing moving to one place. Would be mint. However, I still don't want us to go down like...obviously.

I cannot beleive the amount of people who criticise our defence in general...the shittest thing about Newcastle United is its midfield and it has been for a good few years. Duff - Past it Butt - Past it Geremi - Past it Jonas - Adapting to the Premiership Guthrie - Needs guiding but does well Barton - Injured and will probably continue to get more injuries as the majority of his opponents will go out to kick him up-a-height Zog - Or best midfielder but wants away Lua Lua -Inexperienced and hasn't had a chance Gonzalez - Who? Is he even still here? On the subject of Coloccini though, him and Bassong are both quality defenders who are more than capable of dealing with the majority of Premier League strikers, Enrique is decent at defending but often his distribution is wank and Taylor makes far too many rash decisions and errors, with Beye, Enrique and Bassong and Colo' we actually have a solid defence, it is the fuckers in the middle who cannot protect them that is the problem. Butt has given endless free kicks and penalties away from being too slow...thinking he can get there but he just cannot. Guthrie has done okay but needs to either sit or go forward - instead he is forced to rush all over the place. Duff is shite defensively as is Charlie and Jonas provides decent cover for Beye (when he plays). Geremi is just too slow and Barton is out. No matter what anyone says defense starts from the front and especially against West Ham our 2 strikers couldn't give a fuck about anything until the ball was at their feet, the link up play between the midfield and our strikers was woeful. As soon as defenders can bring the ball forward our midfield can be dragged out of position leaving their midfield open i more advanced position which then in turn drags our defenders out of place or simply they get over ran by attackers. Really don't understand the amount of criticism he receives... Anyways, why the hell did we play the offside trap against West Ham when we know that when Bellamy played for us everyone who played it against us ended up conceding from a Bellamy through ball? It was stupid. Sit deep and make them play in front of you, then they don't have a threat. Againt Liverpool people laughed when I said play 3-5-2...I bet if we had of we would have done far better, Stevie G runs there game so over run their midfield and stop their supply to the front line. I don't mind Kinnear, but he has got some of his tactics badly wrong in our last few games tbh.

That was because there was a row of LFC fans in amongst ours, who were escorted to the LFC end after they celeberated when they scored and there was an exchane of words...

Fucking hell, how long did it take for tis to be turned on the singing section? 2 Pages? The singing section was the loudest part of the ground today and actually got alot of good songs going not just the cringeworthy you're support is fucking shit, in which they were. I tell you what 90% of the people off this forums hould actually try a game or two up there and actually see what it's like before criticising as thye do, I am sure the majority of those who do it have never been up there like...

Who are you talking to? No one said anything against your points. I am putting my opinion in response to yours, it is an internet forum mate, and at that your little debate is on a publicly viewed page, therefore it is open to others' opinions which is what I am doing, if you want a personal debate take it to private messages with the person involved, if not get used to it.

If you want to purely watch the game and couldn't care a site for the atmosphere then fuck off too your arm chair you will find a better view with mroe replays, angles and tactical informaiton than anywhere else. If you want to take in the atmosphere, game and create an atmosphere then go to the games. The 52,000 people in there should give at least a little bit of a toss about how good both sets of fans are otherwise like I have said thy may as well sit in their armchair. I am not saying you have to sing to be at the game all I am saying is don't attend if you don't care about the atmosphere...

No DCMK or whatever your name is, support is something we all do, if you watch football to be entertained then fuck off to the picturs and watch a film you ill enjoy your money worth there. Support is what we are passionate about, and as for support they were dreadful, you are wrong just face it, you were not there to witness it therefore you cannot really comment, don't pretending your opinion is highly intelligent when you don't actually have a clue...

Keegan saga aside they appear to be doing a decent thing imo. Maybe I am overlooking something which is what the NUSC is all about...

I don't think anyone who was there or even those who weren't could complain that Newcastle were undeserving of their 5-1 defeat. People are not having a go at Liverpool for the result, it's just after todays showing the Liverpool fans appeared to either be taking their position for granted or just simply shite at supporting their club. I am going to go with the latter considering they came out with their more traditional songs (which are great tbf) but only ever for 5minutes after they scored. At 72 minutes they were completely beasted bythe NUFC support, and that is all there is to be said. 20minutes at 5-1 down and they (the Newcastle fans) were amazing.

I believe they stand for a collective view, not necesaarily what the whole of the NUFC support think, just what that group think. The group which I believe was intended to be a larger group for leaders of the smaller groups to intwine and get together if you like. For too long N-O, TF, The Mag, TU, etc have all been seperate and critical of one another to me the NUSC are trying to pull us all together which is fair enough, today they did more than an of us and I think they should be credited for it not criticised. That's the whole point though, what do they stand for!?!

I am sure a similar post would have been made if we were to have won, just more tactful. The Liverpool fans were shite today and there is on denying that. One club was outclassed on the ptich whereas the other was outcassed off it, the only problem was from a NUFC point of view was that off the pitch is where we more successful.