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Well it would have been canny to have not been forced to play Obertan and Williamson tomorrow in a crucial game that could end up being the difference between us staying up and going down, that's all. We've had 19 days to ensure that's not the case, we're gambling on a smaller scale by leaving it late in that respect.

You're not bothered about tomorrow's result then?

Well we agree, but my point is we'll see in the next 2 weeks. If we don't bring in a forward and a centre half then it doesn't matter if we stay up or not, he's taking the risk.

So he'll get in the players we need before Feb 1st. Phew. Cheers for letting us know.

This speculation stuff usually works well in terms of us actually pushing the transfer through. I predict tomorrow... KABLAM! NUFC re-sign Fitz Hall... http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/DealWithIt/tumblr_limthcd5BD1qfyv11o1_500.gif

THE HIGHER YOU BUILD YOUR BARRIERS... THE TALLER I BECOME

Other clubs: Nope, no thanks. It's a way to make your argument seem more valid when in fact you're being more wooly. Nobody pays that much attention to other clubs so it's one of your genius ways of making people surrender because they can't be arsed to look into it. OK, give me a couple more examples and I'll decide if I can be bothered responding. 2nd sentence: Rephrase it then, it doesn't make sense to me. 3rd - Have I not made it patently obvious that I think we should have done better than we have with the players we've had available? How does that relate to squad-strengthening and how does it apply to the conversation we're having?

Other clubs, let's just stop talking about it. I can't be arsed. Your second sentence doesn't make sense. Your 3rd sentence is insane. You're now suggesting that I'm saying we haven't under-performed on the pitch after I said the exact opposite earlier on? Is it possible - and hang on, this is fucking proper complicated - that we've under-performed on the pitch, manager-wise, board-wise all in the same season? Yes? Well that's what I've made quite clear I'm arguing. I said it practically word for word 3 or 4 posts ago. And now you throw it at me that because I'm saying the board under-performed I'm suggesting we haven't under-performed on the pitch given what we have available? The argument is that simplistic? Jesus Christ.

Mannn, class.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Are you for real? Honestly, hang on a second. Are you saying that Moyes had a poor season but that it was understandable given what he had at his disposable and that we can say similar about Pardew? Given the appearance figures I've posted? Just want to clarify that point, before I argue otherwise. no, i'm saying what i said in the bit you emboldend. seems plain to me, pardew has a lot more at his disposal than moyes had, maybe neil can cast more light on that as i'm not too clever on that everton team. Fair enough then, it reads differently to me. At the moment it seems to me that everyone is to blame to varying degrees - Ashley, Llambias, Pardew, staff, experienced players, young players - it's all been a massive f*** up from the summer 2012 until now. And because no party is an overwhelming scapegoat, nobody is getting the finger pointed at them too enthusiastically yet. But it'll happen at some point and quite often the manager bears the brunt. Above all else, this season after last is just totally unacceptable - last season shouldn't have been built on sand in theory but we've just completely and utterly f***ing blown it and it's so likely to come back to haunt us. Everton probably managed to keep most of their players after they finished 4th bottom for a start, and I doubt we'll be so lucky. transfer wise it's easy to cast blame but we haven't got a clue whats going on. on the pitch is different, it's very transparent and we know pardew has got it wrong. I think it's quite black and white transfer-wise - we lost Best, Lovenkrands, Guthrie and Smith (only significant in terms of wages) last summer and we only bought one proven player in (Anita). That was despite having needed a centre half since summer 2011 and in the knowledge we'd been lucky with injuries the previous season and had more games and travel upcoming due to us qualifying for Europe. There's no excuse for that happening, it doesn't matter about your arguments in relation to intent and all the rest of it - you make it sound like we had 3 or 4 targets that we just missed out on and for that reason we need to bite the bullet and stay patient until the next transfer window. It shouldn't work like that when it's costing you points week after week, you need to avoid leaving your squad short by hook or by crook. i'd say we hadn't been lucky with injuries, ben arfa out for a while, steven taylor likewise, even santon, guthrie didn'y play all those games through suspensions ! many clubs are short in certain positions, ask the mackems how long they wanted a left back for, look at spurs up front beyond adebayour and defoe, glenn johnson's played left back this season hasn't he ? you get me wrong, i don't say stay patient, i say get evidence. in what walks of life will you slag someone off when you really haven't got a clue whats went on ? 1) You've watched us for longer than I have. I've watched us for about 20 seasons and last season was one of the luckiest we've had for injuries, I swear to God I'm not imagining that. Ben Arfa had to ease himself back in yes, Taylor had his usual half season out, but apart from that - nah. Nothing more than the odd knock, and not very many simultaneously. 2) I'm not talking to you about the "many clubs" argument, I find it incredibly tedious. I'm bothered about NUFC and we play Mike Williamson in over 3 quarters of our games. We have 2 centre forwards and one of them is Shola Ameobi. 3) Get evidence. My evidence was that we were 4 players down and 1 player up last summer when we actually needed to increase the size of our squad. I'm judged on results at work, are you? One of the board's 'results' is equipping the manager with a good enough squad to compete. Honestly, f***ing hell. 1) take a look at the appearances for last season, see how many games williamson, obertan, raylor, guthrie played. (not including best as that was pre cisse_ 2) just pointing out that other clubs have the same problem. 3) dodgy one. yes the squad should be bigger (see point 2) and in my opinion the manager has had the tools and misused them. check my history after practically every game. The reason that those relatively shite players played so many games last season is due to how thin the squad was/is, and only an idiot or thoroughly stubborn and contrary person couldn't see or articulate that as an obvious reality. 11 purples means shite players get lots of games. Again, I'm not that bothered about other clubs, this is just one of your 3 or 4 very tedious arguments that people generally can't be arsed to argue against. I don't even know or care who Sunderland's left back is and Spurs have enough players in other positions to compensate for their lack of strikers given the way the modern game is played. Your point about Glenn Johnson playing left back is beyond belief, I don't even know where to start. The actual point here is we needed to improve our squad last year in the face of quite clear evidence that we'd been riding our luck with injuries (that is if you've been paying attention to our injury list over recent years) and the reality that we'd have at least 6 more games and lots more travelling due to getting into Europe. We ended up with less players than we started and you think we can't judge because we "don't know what's went on". If I was asked to do something at work and I didn't achieve it, they wouldn't give a fuck if I had a cold or the systems were down or whatever. The people at the top of NUFC had a duty to do right by the club last summer and no amount of mitigating circumstances get them off the hook.

There may be some value in that argument of him playing central, in which case Redknapp's been quite clever.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Are you for real? Honestly, hang on a second. Are you saying that Moyes had a poor season but that it was understandable given what he had at his disposable and that we can say similar about Pardew? Given the appearance figures I've posted? Just want to clarify that point, before I argue otherwise. no, i'm saying what i said in the bit you emboldend. seems plain to me, pardew has a lot more at his disposal than moyes had, maybe neil can cast more light on that as i'm not too clever on that everton team. Fair enough then, it reads differently to me. At the moment it seems to me that everyone is to blame to varying degrees - Ashley, Llambias, Pardew, staff, experienced players, young players - it's all been a massive f*** up from the summer 2012 until now. And because no party is an overwhelming scapegoat, nobody is getting the finger pointed at them too enthusiastically yet. But it'll happen at some point and quite often the manager bears the brunt. Above all else, this season after last is just totally unacceptable - last season shouldn't have been built on sand in theory but we've just completely and utterly f***ing blown it and it's so likely to come back to haunt us. Everton probably managed to keep most of their players after they finished 4th bottom for a start, and I doubt we'll be so lucky. transfer wise it's easy to cast blame but we haven't got a clue whats going on. on the pitch is different, it's very transparent and we know pardew has got it wrong. I think it's quite black and white transfer-wise - we lost Best, Lovenkrands, Guthrie and Smith (only significant in terms of wages) last summer and we only bought one proven player in (Anita). That was despite having needed a centre half since summer 2011 and in the knowledge we'd been lucky with injuries the previous season and had more games and travel upcoming due to us qualifying for Europe. There's no excuse for that happening, it doesn't matter about your arguments in relation to intent and all the rest of it - you make it sound like we had 3 or 4 targets that we just missed out on and for that reason we need to bite the bullet and stay patient until the next transfer window. It shouldn't work like that when it's costing you points week after week, you need to avoid leaving your squad short by hook or by crook. i'd say we hadn't been lucky with injuries, ben arfa out for a while, steven taylor likewise, even santon, guthrie didn'y play all those games through suspensions ! many clubs are short in certain positions, ask the mackems how long they wanted a left back for, look at spurs up front beyond adebayour and defoe, glenn johnson's played left back this season hasn't he ? you get me wrong, i don't say stay patient, i say get evidence. in what walks of life will you slag someone off when you really haven't got a clue whats went on ? 1) You've watched us for longer than I have. I've watched us for about 20 seasons and last season was one of the luckiest we've had for injuries, I swear to God I'm not imagining that. Ben Arfa had to ease himself back in yes, Taylor had his usual half season out, but apart from that - nah. Nothing more than the odd knock, and not very many simultaneously. 2) I'm not talking to you about the "many clubs" argument, I find it incredibly tedious. I'm bothered about NUFC and we play Mike Williamson in over 3 quarters of our games. We have 2 centre forwards and one of them is Shola Ameobi. 3) Get evidence. My evidence was that we were 4 players down and 1 player up last summer when we actually needed to increase the size of our squad. I'm judged on results at work, are you? One of the board's 'results' is equipping the manager with a good enough squad to compete. Honestly, fucking hell.

Fucking hell, the desperation reaches new levels. I'm not joking, that is fucking desperate. Pardew saying what nobody's really thinking or cares about to try to make his task seem harder. Once again, we're the underdog and will have to overcome more confident players, adverse weather conditions, and actual cheating to triumph.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Are you for real? Honestly, hang on a second. Are you saying that Moyes had a poor season but that it was understandable given what he had at his disposable and that we can say similar about Pardew? Given the appearance figures I've posted? Just want to clarify that point, before I argue otherwise. no, i'm saying what i said in the bit you emboldend. seems plain to me, pardew has a lot more at his disposal than moyes had, maybe neil can cast more light on that as i'm not too clever on that everton team. Fair enough then, it reads differently to me. At the moment it seems to me that everyone is to blame to varying degrees - Ashley, Llambias, Pardew, staff, experienced players, young players - it's all been a massive f*** up from the summer 2012 until now. And because no party is an overwhelming scapegoat, nobody is getting the finger pointed at them too enthusiastically yet. But it'll happen at some point and quite often the manager bears the brunt. Above all else, this season after last is just totally unacceptable - last season shouldn't have been built on sand in theory but we've just completely and utterly f***ing blown it and it's so likely to come back to haunt us. Everton probably managed to keep most of their players after they finished 4th bottom for a start, and I doubt we'll be so lucky. transfer wise it's easy to cast blame but we haven't got a clue whats going on. on the pitch is different, it's very transparent and we know pardew has got it wrong. I think it's quite black and white transfer-wise - we lost Best, Lovenkrands, Guthrie and Smith (only significant in terms of wages) last summer and we only brought one proven player in (Anita). That was despite having needed a centre half since summer 2011 and in the knowledge we'd been lucky with injuries the previous season and had more games and travel upcoming due to us qualifying for Europe. There's no excuse for that happening, it doesn't matter about your arguments in relation to intent and all the rest of it - you make it sound like we had 3 or 4 targets that we just missed out on and for that reason we need to bite the bullet and stay patient until the next transfer window. It shouldn't work like that when it's costing you points week after week, you need to avoid leaving your squad short by hook or by crook.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Are you for real? Honestly, hang on a second. Are you saying that Moyes had a poor season but that it was understandable given what he had at his disposable and that we can say similar about Pardew? Given the appearance figures I've posted? Just want to clarify that point, before I argue otherwise. no, i'm saying what i said in the bit you emboldend. seems plain to me, pardew has a lot more at his disposal than moyes had, maybe neil can cast more light on that as i'm not too clever on that everton team. Fair enough then, it reads differently to me. At the moment it seems to me that everyone is to blame to varying degrees - Ashley, Llambias, Pardew, staff, experienced players, young players - it's all been a massive fuck up from the summer 2012 until now. And because no party is an overwhelming scapegoat, nobody is getting the finger pointed at them too enthusiastically yet. But it'll happen at some point and quite often the manager bears the brunt. Above all else, this season after last is just totally unacceptable - last season shouldn't have been built on sand in theory but we've just completely and utterly fucking blown it and it's so likely to come back to haunt us. Everton probably managed to keep most of their players after they finished 4th bottom for a start, and I doubt we'll be so lucky.

If we buy him then I'm switching from my Serie A team to a Premier League team on FIFA Ultimate Team, there can be no higher praise.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4 thanks for re pointing out what i'd already said. Are you for real? Honestly, hang on a second. Are you saying that Moyes had a poor season but that it was understandable given what he had at his disposable and that we can say similar about Pardew? Given the appearance figures I've posted? Just want to clarify that point, before I argue otherwise.

Change his name to Realist Nut this second. Might as well save some time and stick him with QPR on £80k a week. Manic Depressive Nut.

Change his name to Realist Nut this second.

Here's Randy again Que? Sarcastaball. South Park reference. I was just belittling the posting majority in the best way I know how. You are bang in to it at the moment Moment lifetime. Hope to fuck this is true though despite knowing little about the player. Don't worry, lots of people on here will know everything you could possibly imagine about the player.

didn't david moyes go through a similar after a good season. don't think many at everton were blaming him directly for mismanaging what he had at his disposal mind, neil may tell us. We have 21 points after 22 games. Do you think that's anywhere near acceptable with what Pardew's had "at his disposal?" To help you, and for the avoidance of doubt and total waffle, here is every player in our squad with 1+ league appearance this season: Player Apps Tim Krul 18 Fabricio Coloccini 14 Davide Santon 22 Yohan Cabaye 9+1 Danny Simpson 15+1 Mike Williamson 17 Vurnon Anita 15+3 Papiss Cissé 19+1 Hatem Ben Arfa 13 James Perch 14+3 Ryan Taylor 0+1 Jonás Gutiérrez 18 Demba Ba 19+1 Gaël Bigirimana 3+8 Sylvain Marveaux 6+7 Shola Ameobi 3+11 Cheick Tioté 13+1 Gabriel Obertan 3+8 Mathieu Debuchy 1 Steven Taylor 10+1 Sammy Ameobi 1+7 Nile Ranger 0+2 Shane Ferguson 4+5 James Tavernier 0+2 Steve Harper 4