Froggy

Lost 80 quid on the final. 470 profit for the World Cup. Can't wait for the new season now so I can start losing money again.

Come on now Messi.

Only a mock up of how our kits will look the season after next, but still. Gorgeous. http://i.imgur.com/BbCdTkV.png

Worth it IMO, you paid nearly 30 for Fellaini ffs. I wouldn't be basing it on Fellaini. That's another of Moyes' fuck ups. Shaw, 18, already proven in England - 27m Herrera, 24, the playermaker we've desperately needed - 28m Them looking Evra as well is just a bit too much. We've have to invest again on left back as well, so really the price is about 45m or more and we'd be losing a valuable bit of experience from our backline.

Last I heard about Vidal is that it's off. Too expensive. They're looking 40m+ and Evra.

Either way, a back three of Vlaar, Martins Indi and De Vrij is still weak.

I thought he alternated. Definitely thought it was De Vrij and Blind as full backs with those two in centre back for the games I seen.

He deserves it, but the only hope of Argentina winning is if he does indeed play a blinder.

We have a manager now who got Holland to third in the World Cup with a centre back pairing of Vlaar and Martins Indi. If we get Vidal we'll challenge, never mind Europe.

Evans and Jones.

I don't. The debate was who is more complete, not who is better. For what it's worth, I do think Messi is better, not but it's not by much. Ronaldo is very close to him.

Is Ronaldo more complete than Robben?

True enough, but you agree with my point, so we can leave it there.

It's true like. I can't even begin to see how you can disagree with that.

Thought it was in comparison to Messi. I didn't see Pele so can't comment Ronaldo is 100% more complete than Messi like. I don't think anyone would dispute that.

I think because of what Ronaldo has turned into people forget just how good he was with the ball at his feet. It's like people forget his first few seasons in England. He absolutely has everything you mentioned.

Again, Ronaldo has all of that. Pele was better, but that isn't the point here.

You're welcome to point out the weaknesses in Ronaldos game to me. I think Pele is better from what I've seen but Ronaldo is every bit as complete IMO. Both feet, heading, skill, speed, strength, free kicks, penalties.

Attacking centre midfielder, but he'll play deeper with us due to how good our attacking midfielders are. If Vidal comes in it's a dream.

Van Gaal should worry more about finding a decent central midfielder. http://i3.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article5829469.ece/alternates/s615/Ander-Herrera.jpg

When people say United everyone knows who their talking about. I don't know why people get so sensitive over that.

He'll get whatever he wants. It's going to take longer than a year to topple City though. Europe is the priority.

I don't think you like Germans.

I'm not saying anyone is better than anyone or more complete than the other, but I've seen a few people say there is no doubt Pele is the most complete footballer of all time. What makes him more complete than Cristiano Ronaldo? Just curious.