Froggy

Maybe that's what I should do...... put in a bet that'd return 60k. Fancy uploading screenshot of your bet? I would if I could find the bloody slip! It didn't look too unrealistic to be honest. Stranger things have happened. That's generally the reason why they never win. Nothing ever goes to plan.

I was serious about the teams at least.

Galatasaray / Zenit double. €555.55. Do it.

I'll definitely be checking out of a game if he arrives. I have to see Del Piero play while I'm here as well. He's tearing s*** up in the league. You should probably see Heskey instead cause he seems to be doing better. Aye Heskey has 5 goals in 7 games. Del Piero is just destroying everybody though, as you'd expect. He has 6 in 6 I think, scored a few screamers last week.

If you don't count the Q-League amongst the top 3, we've got nothing else to discuss here. Hasn't been on the same level since Batigol retired.

The A-League is a high standard. Probably third behind only Spain and England.

I'll definitely be checking out of a game if he arrives. I have to see Del Piero play while I'm here as well. He's tearing shit up in the league.

Full squad: Sam Johnstone, Anders Lindegaard; Rafael, Alexander Buttner, Phil Jones, Tom Thorpe, Marnick Vermijl, Scott Wootton, Michael Carrick, Davide Petrucci, Larnell Cole, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Nick Powell, Ashley Young, Ryan Tunnicliffe, Javier Hernandez, Joshua King, Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda. Good thing you didn't put it on.

Don't bet on us. We've already won our group, while Galatarasary are still fighting to stay in the competition. Plus we're away in Turkey. It'll be a weak team we play.

http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ashleyllambias2.jpg Pardew would get a lot of money then?

If Ashley was to sack Pardew, how much would that cost the club? Doesn't the remainder of his contract need to be paid off if he's sacked? 7 years wages?

I've only taken the piss out of Liverpool, which is fully acceptable.

I don't want any hard feelings on Scholesys birthday.

That's what happened. If Swindon were the team in red that's who it would be. All this trials and tribulations stuff too. It's not my fault that they're successful. You're basically saying you won't accept any Manchester United fans who aren't from Manchester unless they've went through bad times, i.e. relegation. Or do you hold this stance with Newcastle supporters who aren't from Newcastle as well, because if you don't, your argument is invalid.

While you mean the same thing, you put it much better. It's frustrating for me because while I admittedly didn't know anything about my "decision" at the time, (I liked the colour red, and my Ma was watching football and we were playing. It's that simple. It could have been Liverpool/Middlesborough/Bristol City.), I haven't looked back on it. That's just the way it is in Ireland. It might be bizarre for Englishmen to see people like us supporting English teams but everyone here follows the Premier League and very few have genuine interest in the League of Ireland. I just have a general love for football and Manchester United in particular, and people off here can tell you that. It's fantastic when we play Newcastle and me and Decky watch it together because it's two genuine fans who love their club. I've witnessed the actual glory hunters you're accustomed too though, i.e. some of our mates who give Decky abuse but could barely name our starting 11. I'll never forget the day we were winning and he was getting some stick by a Man Utd fan who didn't know who Bobby Charlton was. I even had people ask me in Manchester what the Bishop Blaize, which was bizarre for me as basically all of our chants come out of there. As for the Grandad thing, that was hypothetical. He supported Villa. He died before you got relegated though so I didn't witness him be a cunt that day. ------------------ Back to England though, Clevs for me like. *slight edit.

Sounds like it's you with the problem. I can basically never have a discussion about football with you on this forum because of your hatred for Manchester United. Based on your argument too, nobody can ever support a club that has been dominant. I have a friend who supports Nottingham Forest because his Dad did and he just followed suit. His Dad may well have start supporting them when/because they won the European Cup, so that makes him a glory hunter? If my Grandad supported Manchester United when they were winning a lot in the early 50's/60's, then my Dad started supporting them in the 80's because his Dad did, even though they won next to nothing for 25 years, then my Dad is a glory hunter? I similarly am because I follow my Dad then? Children learn from their parents and tend to follow or copy their parents way, with everything, not just football. Do you see the pattern? Your logic is nonsense. There are plenty of people with this view mind so it's like fighting a wall. It bothers me, but fuck it.

Just shift out Berbatov for Van Persie. I'm pretty sure that's an acceptable swap. Berbatov is on fire this season mind.

I am not mufcgeordie.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the England games he's played ? Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks. Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters. I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row. England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent. So you don't actually think that you are an actual glory hunter then??????? First off, congratulations on being the first person in two years to accuse me of being a glory hunters on this forum, even though I've explained how I wound up supporting Manchester United, and even though people from here know me in real life and know how much I love the club and football in general. No, I'm not a glory hunter. That's not what annoys me though, it's the fact that because I rate a young player, and because he plays for Man Utd, it's glory hunters nonsense. I'm on this forum because the majority don't spout that sort of rubbish when someone has an opinion. Dissect it, sure, tell me why he doesn't deserve to play for England, that's fine, but leave that other shit out. To you, I basically don't have a say because you'll either; a) agree or b) call me a glory hunter.

Sinclairs wasn't sitting pretty at all. It's technically the best one I've ever seen. Ibrahimovic's was incredible technique and with the distance taken into account as well and the fact he had to loop it. Rivaldos against Valencia deserves a mention as well.

I did see a headline after the game that said something like, "this silenced all doubt that Ibrahimovic can do it on the big stage." It was a friendly. he's still quality. Him as a manager would be golden.

The one where he merked about 5 people? If so I concur. Skins the same guy twice too.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the England games he's played ? Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks. Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters. I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row. England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent.

100% agree with you on Wilshere, he's an incredible propesct. Cleverley is performing extremely well for both club and country though, and like you said, he has above average technique. He also has very good vision and a decent eye for goal plus his workrate is second to none. Can't understand how that isn't quality, but each to their own. I've always thought if Wilshere and Cleverley both fulfill their potential, England will have an incredible central midfield pairing, and possibly one that can play together, unlike Gerrard and Lampard.