Froggy

BBC Article right now: Gustavo signs for Bayern Munich Brazil international Luiz Gustavo joins Bayern Munich from Wolfsburg, despite being heavily linked with Wolfsburg.

Zanetti has been playing to a higher level than Giggs in recent years. Two freaks of nature though. If Zanetti comes back from his injury and plays to a high standard again at the age of forty it will be quite incredible.

Abso-fucking-exactly. Cunt of a man, and a shit player to boot. He was and is a cunt, but was a good player. He made up for his lack of pace with his ability to read the game extremely well. His fearless style and aggression is definitely a plus point too. He was probably the slowest player in the Premiership the last two years and still managed to put in a lot of good performances for the scum.

GW1: Liverpool 2 v 0 Stoke City Arsenal 3 v 0 Aston Villa Norwich 2 v 1 Everton Sunderland 2 v 2 Fulham West Brom 1 v 2 Southampton West Ham 1 v 0 Cardiff City Swansea 1 v 2 Man Utd Crystal Palace 1 v 3 Tottenham Chelsea 4 v 0 Hull City Man City 3 v 0 Newcastle Chelsea 3 v 0 Aston Villa

Aye you like a bit of entertainment, plus he's one of the best players in the World. I only want him out of the country when he's doing damage to us with his ability, the cunt.

Can't wait for this season like. Bayern vs. Dortmund, Man Utd vs. Man City, David vs. Jack Flash etc.

Christ. Unreal bad luck.

Arsenal will fail to qualify for the Champions League, even if they get Suarez.

Would people say Suarez is better than prime Liverpool Torres? I wouldn't. It could be something to do with him giving us an awful doing on numerous occasions but still.

A nothing club that still finished above you last season though. I think Ronaldo's point is that you shouldn't want them to improve at all, whether it's a player you're interested in or not. Agree though. Gomis > Bent. I really like Gomis as a player.

When in the last 20 years has nobody predicted us to win the league? Pressure is off.

Swap with 10m on top maybe. I doubt you'd even accept that.

Trebled his 20k wages IIRC.

That would seem on the low side. What do you think you'll end up accepting Froggy? Surely an Inter Milan or someone could be tempted in to paying top dollar for him? He's a fantastic footballer but he's clearly unhappy and doesn't want to be there. Only two years left on his contract. I'd say £35m will see it done. I think we want to actually sign somebody before we let him go though.

Fresh bid of 25m plus add ons for Rooney. I'd say a good 12m below our valuation right now, given the current situation.

Big fan of the changes.

Goal for Parky.

Premiership Winners: Man City Runners Up: Chelsea 3rd-6th: Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool Relegation: Stoke, Hull, Crystal Palace. Overachievers: Norwich Underperformers: West Brom, Sunderland Top Goal Scorer: Robin van Persie Break Out Year: Coutinho, Zaha Season to Forget: Negredo PFA Player of the Year: Mata PFA Young Player of the Year: Zaha Manager of the Year: Pellegrini First manager to quite/be sacked/'mutual consent': Di Canio Newcastle United Where will we finish?: 13th Top Goalscorer?: Cisse. How will we do in the cup competitions?: Last 16. How will we do in the derby games?: Two draws. Domestic Championship Promotion: QPR, Wigan, Watford Championship Relegation: Yeovil, Doncaster, Barnsley League One Promotion: Wolves, Peterborough, Sheff Utd League One Relegation: Coventry, Carlisle, Shrewsbury, Tranmere FA Cup: Man Utd League Cup: Liverpool Johnstone's Paint Trophy: Wolves Europe La Liga winner: Barcelona Serie A winner: Juventus Bundesliga winner: Bayern Münich Champions League winner: Bayern Münich Europa League winner: Spurs World Player of the Year: Messi or Cleverley Other Will Darren Bent outscore our new strikers? No. Will Di Canio still be at the mackems come May 2014? Yes. How many points will Rangers win Scots Div 2 by? 7 Will we field a team with 10 French players in this season? I really hope not, no. How will Moyes do at Man United? He'll do a very good job, but Man City and Chelsea will be too strong this season, as it stands. Will the new goal line technology be a success? I have no idea. Hit and miss. Will NUFC finally score from a set penis? It's been done in pre-season so it'll happen again. Against Chelsea at SJP.

Anyone want to do it? I lack the creativity for the fun stuff at the bottom. I reckon Mike should do it.

I can't wait until Cleverley becomes one of the top midfielders in the league this season.

I'd say Djemba-Djemba was looking at a 19% pass success rate. Seen by Fergie as Roy Keanes successor you know. Was a good call.

All of that is utter nonsense. Re watch your games. Even in pre season the guy mis places passes all the time. It infuriates me because he's gonna be in the World Cup team and he shouldn't be playing like that. I don't need to rewatch anything. Cleverleys pass success rate with us is 91% since his first game, which is higher than Scholes. Constantly misplacing passes doesn't get you a pass success rate of 91%. Pretty sure the only midfielder who played 20 games or more last season who bettered Cleverleys passing success was Dembele. Also, your comment about pre-season is completely off the mark. He's always phenomenal in pre-season. When he came into our first team he was our best player in pre-season against Barcelona (arguably the best player on the pitch) and the next game he came on against City in the 3-2 win at the Community Shield. Cleverley changed that game as well. You're wrong about Cleverley, simple as. He's a very good footballer, is going to get better and will prove any doubters wrong. I'm sure of it.

Aye there's two Liverpool threads. I feel inclined to start a Man Utd one.

All of that is utter nonsense.