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But I'm having to point put basic things because people are being so absurdly over the top about how bad Burn is, and how much he gets exposed by pacy wingers. Same as how Bailey terrorised our midfield and backline, but Burn has been highlighted as the problem. The ammount of space Ogbene was in at times wasn't fully down to Burn.

But people are saying Ogbene was nulified when Burn went off pich which isn't true, there was a moment before this where he got down the byline and looked dangerous as well from memory. I said at halftime Burn needed to come off, he was having a shocking game, but Ogbene was still causing problems after.

The "bread and butter for the big man" was tongue in cheek man We need to upgrade Burn, I'm completely in the "we need a world class LB/LCB" camp. Burn is in the side as we drop into a 3 though:

look up the word "trajectory"

Yeah, we were back in numbers and Tino was done by a clever ball over the back. Would have been a bread and butter header away for the big man.

Pretty sure most of our players were back in the box like, I'll have to see it again.

when have I ever tried to shutdown people down for pointing out the gap between defense and midfield? Burn has had a bad week. This is what happens though, a hypothetical flaw gets pointed out, we go months or years before it breaks, and then at that point the flaw gets blown up. Burn is obviously not the best fullback ever, but he's worked on our system well for about a year and a half. Thankfully most wingers are't Ogbene quick, and baily roasted our entire team, it wasn't just Burn. Ogbene nearly scored the winner with Tino on the pitch too by the way...

Like I don't want to be a dick, but people seem to have some mental way of thinking, where by the believe Howe is playing him out of some kind of LADS respect or something As if he just hasn't been playing the answer to all of our woes (Livramento) because he just cannot break the news to Burn. Burn's strength in the air to mark a player out of the game in transitions is completely fitting with how we play.

Irritates the fuck out of me when a player blatantly slips in his own third and the ref automatically gives a defensive free kick.

WOW

Chris Wood turning into a young Dimitar Birbatov was surreal like, I stayed away from the forum that day but I imagine it was a laugh like.

The only positive is that extremely tall people tend to die young.

I'm not going to go into a full on rundown of every goal concede, but this is during a time when Trippier has looked like utter shite, we've been physically fucked, and poor defensively for about 3 month. My point is that people have been worrying about Burn being roasted by pace for about 18 month, but we've rarely let it happen. Now that he has (and I said at halftime he needed to come off), it's being made out like this is happening every week (not by you fwiw).

Ah the answer to that is "well usually he has Joelinton helping out", as if it's Howe's tactical approach or something...

So like any other defender does? Are you genuinely trying to argue that Burn been beaten on the counter by rapid wingers is a notable flaw in our gameplan over the past 2 year? This week is genuinely the first time I can remember it being legitimately exposed. There should be loads of examples though?

The basic science behind it is that when Howe plays Dan Burn, a child's wish is taken away from them.

The idea probably wasn't to have him isolated against Ogbene though, Luton did well taking the game to us, you have to give them credit. Again, people have been waiting for a game where this happened, Burn has been sound in our system for donkeys, he's not suddenly a liability after a shite week. Same as Trippier wasn't.

How do you think they'd do isolated against Usain Bolt?

I'm assuming one's who were slower than Ogbone

Easily our biggest miss this season.

It was a dive but the rules have always been mad like that.

was there rwb (usually a winger), fastest bloke in the league

Why? Burn dropping into a back three has been part of our pressing gameplan (moreso last season)

Aye, but people are now using this to verify things like "Burn is always a liability against pace" and "Howe needs to change or the PIF will be impatient". It's shite people have been clamming for for ages, the former especially. It was clear Burn was being roastex and it was confirmed in the 2nd half he shouod have come off, Howe made a massive error there, but Burn is not a shite LB (esoecially given his height) and it isn't absilutely obvious that Livramento should have started ahead of him. We were top 4 last year with Burn apparently being carried by left wingers all season.