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After relegation we had a net transfer income of £24m (according to transfer league). Combined with the parachute payment that income should have largely offset the negative financial implications of relegation. Indeed, if you check the accounts we actually posted a smaller operating loss in the championship than in the premier league the previous season (£33.3m vs £37m). Undoubtedly this was due to correcting some of the mismanagement by the previous regime and the club is now in a much leaner state. Selling off the crown jewels again if we go down would cover some of the losses but I very much doubt we'd raise enough to cover the loss of income from the improved TV deal. That new TV deal is a game changer in my opinion, nobody will risk missing out on that.

I don't think our current lot will be looking at things in terms of footballing success though. They'll be looking to bring in the maximum revenue for the minimum expenditure. It wouldn't surprise me if they've looked at the finances and worked out the optimum finishing position to maximise the revenue vs spend ratio. Each place in the PL is worth about £800k according to the latest data I could find. Obviously positions 18-20 need to be taken out of the equation since relegation would not be profitable. The difference in just merit payments between 8th and 17th is therefore around £7m. In this example a net transfer spend of £6m would give increased revenues of £1m if it resulted in an 8th placed finish rather than 17th. Obviously this is just an example and I don't even know if that level of net spend would result in the improvement in league placings required but it illustrates that there should be a point of inflection on the graph of net spend vs revenue where income is at the optimum level. You would also need to take into account increased gates (not so much for us, our crowds are usually around a similar level) and extra TV money since more successful teams would be selected for TV matches more often. It's hard to get an idea from the last five seasons or so as the relegation clearout and the Carroll transfer distorts the picture. Bit disturbing looking a transferleague.co.uk though, over the last five seasons it has us at a net transfer income of about £38m I would suspect our hierarchy have looked at this and decided where they want us to finish each season and this position will have nothing to do with footballing success. If 15th is the optimum position then I think they'd be just as happy for us to finish there as 5th. As long as Pardew keeps us in the PL I think his job will be safe and he'll be given an amount to spend based on that optimum revenue raising position.

Obviously we'll improve with some of our better players back (we couldn't get any worse) but there's a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. Yes, we have injuries now but what about games like Swansea or West Ham or any number of games earlier in the season? We didn't have too many injuries then and yet we still played shite and got beat off teams we should be putting away at home. Hoping for a result, as always, but can't see it right now. Hoots 3 - 1 Pardiola.

I'd just like to see us win a f***ing trophy before I die, and we've got a way better shot at the FA Cup than we do at winning the league title any time soon. This. Very much this. Let's enter the Johnstones Paint Trophy next season just to get something in the cabinet that isn't in black and white.

Oh, aye, if my boss offered me £40k a week i'd be furious like. What a slap in the face. How can anyone be expected to live on just £2m a year, fucking outrageous.

But you think we'll get better when our better players come back? NO s*** SHERLOCK Idiot p*ssed off we are poor without them but its Pardew's fault. A decent manager can get any bunch of individuals to look like a team and set up some tactics. We've seen nothing of that from us in recent weeks, that is down to the manager. What about our set pieces, why are they so bad? [Aggressive] Whars that your FM mantra [Calm] What's your mantra? [Assertive] Let us get relegated? fyp

Haha. As if you're an NUFC fan. At as late as 5am in the morning it sure seems like I'm watching/listening to the games for some reason (almost every game for over 20 years). Not like those soft types in the north east of England who have to wait until daylight to watch a game of football. Wouldn't you rather get up at 5am for a cup final, pet? Sure would.... but Division 2 doesn't get broadcast. So I'd rather get to watch/listen to seasons worth of games from the Premier League than only 6 games from the FA Cup. Oh, yeah, I read about that. They changed the rules so cup winners now get the cup, prize money, a europa league spot and relegated.

But who would we get in? Who cares? Susan Boyle couldn't do any worse. graham carr No. Changing for the sake of change is stupid. It's what got this club into the position it's in today. Ok, we could ge the bloke from Lille. We could get Solskjaer. We could go for Martinez. Bilic, hell, even Ketsbaia. Don't know anything about the bloke from Lille, Bilic or Solskjaer. Martinez is very inconsistant in my opinion. Ketsbaia has done well, but would there be any point in firing him at this point in the season? We're not going to achieve anything in the league other than survival (which I think we'll do under Pardew anyway). What gain is there in rocking the boat now other than for a truly outstanding candidate? Because the boat's got a big fucking hole in it and is in danger of becoming a submarine.

We're painting our bedsheets first.

But who would we get in? Who cares? Susan Boyle couldn't do any worse. graham carr No. Changing for the sake of change is stupid. It's what got this club into the position it's in today. Ok, we could ge the bloke from Lille. We could get Solskjaer. We could go for Martinez. Bilic, hell, even Ketsbaia.

That was decided at the same meeting when it was confirmed you can only either spend fuck all or bankrupt the club. I think you'd nipped out for a sly one in the toilets when we had the vote.

But who would we get in? Who cares? Susan Boyle couldn't do any worse.

I'd prefer to stay in the PL and win a cup. For a club our size that shouldn't be beyond us. In terms of your slightly silly choice though, i'd rather win a cup and go down.

What's the fucking point then? We're not going to win the league so you'd be happy just staying in the PL each season for another go at winning fuck all? A team like us should be focusing on the cups as it's our best chance of actually winning something. You know, winning things, the point of the game.

I'm never gonna see us win anything.

I can't believe we still float it into the back post. It's like we're entirely incapable of learniing.

Just got in from work. Sounds like I didn't miss much.

It's penises Alan. Set penises. Sort it out.

We're in real trouble here. Hope we get some new faces in soon.

Sports Direct @ boysfirsttime.com? How do you know the name of an actual gay porn website? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91877.msg4115423.html#msg4115423 How did you find out it was an actual website? boom

well hopefull days of sign such crap for big fees are over. it is a hard one but if i had to choose one it has to be Boumsong, big fee no doubt big wages and totalyl 100% crap at everything on a football field. Harsh having Pavel in there like.

Looking like Brown is out for the season. Didn't see that coming.

Could easily be Colo, Krul or HBA. All three of them have a decent claim but I went for Krul simply because it's fucking hard to find really good keepers and we've managed to land a great one for 220k.

It's like he'll turn up for training and go 'who are you then?' 'I'm your new right back boss, nice to meet you'.

Parky is the shrink, wormy is the shrunk.