Scotty66

If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. This is kind of what I meant, the closest thing in the O+D test is if someone has been convicted of a crime (or theft). Nobody from the consortium has. It absolutely causes an issue for the PL with the piracy but the key thing is its not under the rules of their own test. They can't change the rules just because Bein don't like what's happened. I guess this is where our legal team come in. I think you're right. We'll have to either prove they've misapplied the test or have enough evidence of Bein influence/potential corruption that the PL fear this getting into the public domain. You'd imagine their legal counsel will be equally as robust. And on those two points I think we can all agree in here that through our own eyes we've seen the PL play things away from their own rule book. That's simply not allowed and it's their own fault for not making the OD tests robust enough. Also I believe this has a lot more to it - Bein have already paid for the new contract which apparently includes the KSA region. They need to broadcast there. Get the takeover done and you can do it is quite a checkmate position for the Saudi's.

If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. This is kind of what I meant, the closest thing in the O+D test is if someone has been convicted of a crime (or theft). Nobody from the consortium has. It absolutely causes an issue for the PL with the piracy but the key thing is its not under the rules of their own test. They can't change the rules just because Bein don't like what's happened. I guess this is where our legal team come in.

It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller.

Or speed up the takeover and we’ll restore beIN back in Saudi Arabia A very legitimate demand imo, and not unreasonable considering what's happened.

Not the news that we wanted but not bad news either. It was never going to be shouted about if Bein were allowed back in, but the fact that they are open to discussions means this could all happen under the radar.

I live in Norwich and have a lot of Norwich supporting mates. They all said when we signed Lewis that he wasn't worth the price tag and we over paid. Said he was more of a full back than a LB as he was suspect at defending. Also at times they played one of their RB's at LB as it gave them more strength in defence than when Lewis played there.

Like someone said in the comments, that's why we loved Rafa

Saivet The Thierry Henry of football manager. If only he had a half of the potential that the fm researcher could see.

Imo he's doing it to let fans know that he's still involved. I agree it's quite unprofessional, not something that I ever thought he or anyone likewise in his position would do, but at the end of the day it's his own profile. Things like "the bread took a long time to prove" that surely means the consortium are the bread (its nearly always cut into 80/10/10),and that it took him a long time to prove PIF were seperate from the Saudi government? The Spanish record on Saturday the day Rafa leaves China, he's the consortiums number 1 choice. Little things like that, clues to what's going on. That's how I'm reading them anyway. Crazy I know

Not necessarily that it will be over, but it will almost certainly rule out a deal being done without the need for arbitration. If they are still blocked, then its off to arbitration. We should win that and apparently have very strong evidence (which I can completely believe), the only downside to that is if we and the PL can't agree on the 3rd arbitrator, then it'll be someone from the FA. No prizes who you think they will side with. If that fails, the NCSL will have their legal battle. At this point we'll probably be in the Championship, the season will most definitely be over at least. So God knows what will happen then. But that's the apparent road map of how it will play out from now on in.

Not really, the tests in the EFL are basically the same anyway. Just no idea how they would feel about it but you would think they would side with the PL. I just can't see PIF wanting to buy us in the Championship, there's every chance they buy us and we still go down though, which would be a proper sugar daddy football manager style situation

I've only seen him answer the question twice, first he said spring and tonight he said March so the same thing obviously. Watched all of the show tonight and Keith says the Bein ban in KSA is the next big news we need. Hopefully coming in the next few days. If it does then he feels it can help a deal be done without the need for arbitration. If not then when it goes to arbitration, he's next in line after that with his legal case. That's where we're at. I asked a question about De Marco's twitter pictures which they asked Keith about, he basically said it's intentional and that De Marco knows what he's doing (with regards to the fans reactions to the pictures) Also said that Jones was the recommendation of Carr.

Absurd the amount of times we don't play it back to the throw in taker. He's a free man and a simple 1/2 helps keep the ball. Sunday league stuff and we don't do it anywhere near enough.

Any option to buy?

Matt Ritchie. Was quite a bad tackle, but you see worse most games. Just the fact he got injured amplified it. Think him and Bruce had a few handbags via the media after too. Choudhury made a comment about Bruce as a player iirc

I don’t think you’re far off the mark mate. Time will tell, we should know one way or another by the end of next month. Need it to be clarified either way so everyone can move on. Yep it's certainly keeping me busy and giving me something to do. Quite enjoy looking through all the rumours, speculation and possible leaks and trying to piece bits together. Much more enjoyable than than actual football at the minute obviously.

Also how's this for some positivity - Staveley said arbitration timeline of completed end of feb If they want to get a deal done without arbitration, then that would be quicker (2/3 weeks?) Everyone waiting for the bein ban in KSA to be lifted,before all being happy with the situation. This is also why Ashley isn't sacking Bruce, he knows it'll be done in 2/3 weeks maximum then the new owners can deal with the problem. New owners have updated Rafa on the situation who recently said "he'll wait for the right club in the PL"

What's supposed to have happened, like? I've read that he said "you're a shit manager with shit tactics" Hasn't been seen since. No idea if true though.

Now, now a look through his timeline does not suggest any reason why he would even be remotely interested in our takeover. I’m inclined to believe he is genuine, whether everything he hears is entirely accurate is another matter. Follows Jamie reuben on twitter but no one else remotely Newcastle or takeover related. Just a shit load of MP's and political people. Not your average wum.

Possibly, but the best to avoid arbitration is an interesting comment. It's been said a few times now that things are going amicably and avoiding court would make things quicker and better for everyone. (even though I'm convinced we would win anyway)

I'd say Brighton win, the further Fulham fall away from 17th the better. We're not winning so we need them to not either

Adds up with what others gave said, including Jacobs.

Obviously gone if we go down. Will be a knife to the heart.