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Bruce was abysmal plain and simple purely from a results perspective. Dalglish was dire but at least brought in the majority of Bobby's foundation, Souness who everyone knew was a walking disaster was at least brought in for a legitimate reason, despite it ending badly for us. Pardew was brought in as yes man, and did actually achieve something for a season at least despite his obvious limitations and obnoxiousness, MacLaren was a decent bloke but lacked the ability to do what he was trying. Benitez was an anomaly which either indicated a tempory respark of Ashleys interest or Charnleys incompetence at finding someone who wasnt put in his lap. Bruce didn't get results, wound everyone up and was clearly just FMA final insult cos he thought he would be able to beat the fans over the Keegan debacle and failed miserably

Realistcally expanding at the current location is a logistical and financial nightmare. The only realistic way is a new location, or a temporary home where the current site is bulldozed and rebuit. Without change we are stuck, and and have no chance of catching up. Every team with a new ground had the majority of fans objecting to it, but I doubt there many Arsenal fans who now prefer Highbury(the libary) to the Emirates or Spurs that prefer the old White Hart Lane. Hell even Radcliffe is trying to get away from Old Trafford at the tax payers expense, knowing that a decent upgrade would be looking at billions. Perhaps we should try that and become the real "Wembley of the North"

And attitudes like this are why we'll never be winning. If we accept defeat cos "they're better than us" we'll never get anywhere. We should be looking to win every game regardless of opposition, and until we have that we'll always be the also rans

So are you confident that Karius or Gillespie couldn't have got to a shot that was actually heading towards them and not have missed it? I'd be embarrassed if my 8yr old missed one like that

Couldn't have been worse

No one is really surprised. And that's the point, there was no surprise and nothing even looking like a surprise in any way shape or form. As completely expected we rolled over and let Man City tickle our bellies. Nothing in that performance suggested we weren't prepared for and were willing to accept defeat before the match even Started. Eddie isn't going to win anything for us. He doesn't have it in him, as much as I'd like him to

Well if we're hoping to improve that should not be the case. He has been shown to be significantly worse than Pope, and even himself from when he was No.1. Can't remember if it was Neville or Carragher that highlighted it but his save % is about 10 % lower than Pope and is one of the worst in the league

Given Karius or Gillespie an attempt? That first goal from Chelsea was a complete disgrace and he should have been ashamed to have not got it since it was actually getting closer to him

No need to be a smart arse about it, everyone is full and very aware that Pope couldn't play, but you can't argue that Dubravka has not had some shocking and borderline embarrassing performances

Our passing and positioning seemed so much more effective last season and just hasn't been this year. A flick by Bruno this year goes out of play, last year it puts Wilson through on goal, a simple 50/50 goes Longstaffs way last year and sets Almiron away for an assist. This year it bounces to the opposition and they score. Last year Pope pays attention and saves a shot heading above and beyond....this year Dubravka manages to miss a shot which was actually going towards him

Just what I was trying to say, but apparently I'm talking bollix cos some don't want t to hear it

Close is worse than nowhere. Dashed hope hurts infinitely more than none to begin with. Anyone who was there for 95/96 will understand that pain

I dont. He's the best we've had in a long time, but I don't see him breaking the trophy drought

Speak for yourself

Both of which could have been saved by a competent keeper who actually gets closer to shots when they're coming towards him rather than making them look like wonder goals

Pathetic response? I've spent 40 years being patient hoping for things to improve, and all I've seen is that 'patient' teams get nothing but s**t on. Only the ruthless and daring get anywhere. As good as we have been with EH he doesn't have that x unknown that we need. I wish he did but its just not there

Rationally no, but someone will have to take the blame at some point and it's not going to be the players, the fans, or the board. Who's left? EH and the coaching staff

The best description I've heard of us for the last 15 games of so.

Ameobi the 4th....or 5th?

Said it a few days back wrt Burn....we can see it, opposition management and players can see it, other fans can see it yet EH is blind or indifferent to it

There hasn't been any technique. Anything we have done recently looks like a total accident

Hard to disagree. The injury excuse is becoming less relevant and performances are getting worse, not improving. Some might say he's earned another season...10 years ago maybe, but patience has no place now. Our last trophy of any significance was 15 years before I was born, and I'm beginning to doubt I'll live long enough to see the next

Wouldn't know....Marcelino never played that much

No he doesn't...he doesn't save shots that are even going in his direction

You must be watching a different match...we're lucky to be only 2 down