Cf

That's not even a foul never mind a yellow.

Jesus what a strike.

Yeah. The sort of decision where VAR will just side with whoever way the ref goes.

Obv could easily have been a red buy I think you can just about justify a yellow there. He's at least going for the ball, albeit a bit dangerously.

This stopping play when the ball hits the ref rule is ridiculous.

In fairness Carragher said it's more down to Howe than that.

Lascelles doing his best to never be on the team sheet again.

Lascelles looks way off the pace.

He's just resting players isn't he with the Everton game being given a higher priority. Fair enough.

Didn't we do something similar where we were the first in the champions league to lose our opening 3 and still qualify?

Southgates main achievements in my view are to do with the culture and representing us well as a country, and in an international role this is certainly a positive. In footballing terms I think he's only been ok. And ok is certainly an improvement on what we've been used to. We went deep in the euros and world cup but a bit like pardew finished 5th, Bruce 13th, it doesn't quite tell the full story. We had incredibly good draws - look over the fixtures and it feels to me like we did what we'd be expected to do. Basically he hasn't exceeded expectations or overachieved in footballing terms. I agree we should have contingencies in case something happens with Howe but Southgates name should be nowhere near that.

Don't know why loads of people are slating him in here or suggesting he's not doing well at West Brom. He's got them in 13th. I thought that was good and something to be pleased with?

Leeds and Liverpool are the big rivalries as far as I'm aware with Man Utd. With City less so.

That just cements their relegation doesn't it? My main worry for Leeds was he built them to play in such a way and when he transferred the reins they would struggle. To do that during a relegation fight seems mental.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking him. But "unlimited funds" isn't necessarily a good thing. He needs to not see it like that. The video game analogy is that games were better back in the day when hardware limitations were much more pronounced. It forced creativity, art style, etc. Now in the era of AAA games with ridiculous budgets it's all a bit shit. (Except Elden Ring. That's gonna be awesome.)

He's a coach, not a manager. Don't get why he gets such a hard time from people because he was a shit manager when asked to do it for a few games. The fact he's a "name" at all is only because of how bad Bruce was at the time.

Bruno for Shelvey seems an obvious like for like change at some point. Don't think Shelvey has been quite as poor as some have made out. Made a few useful passes forward. Not been amazing or anything, but not the liability he can be at times.

Haha did anyone see that BT set the score to 2-0 briefly by mistake?

Clear issues with personnel here.

Krafth looked like he was hunting for another booking there having not dealt with the pass he was given.

And despite this we've put in a good showing for ourselves so far. Kraft aside.

Obviously goes without saying but if Trippier was on the pitch that doesn't happen and we aren't a goal down.

Fucking hell Kraft.

Could easily be ahead here. They're all over the place.

Can't see how that goal stood. It's right off the side of his arm.