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Imagine framing that as an actual debate

Aye that'll be the FIFA in Qatar's pocket

Of course there are Funny how this always happens during a prospective takeover, then you never hear about those groups again Almost like they don’t actually exist

The problem is he is limited in the worst area for a footballer, his stamina and work rate. If you want to make a direct comparison, how about Yahya Toure? Thought he was the bee's knees, but his quality meant nothing at the top end of the Premier, where other teams could produce slightly less end product, but twice the energy to dominate games. Pep recognised this and binned him off when he got too comfortable. Yaya Toure frequently dominated the top sides whenever he played and was undoubtedly the best midfielder in the league for a great period of his time there

I can't remember it even being brought up by a pundit

And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... What is it with you and writing ludicrously negative comments and then disappearing?

Lasted long. Hopefully at Premier League HQ

You're making a fair point and it is hypocritical of our fanbase to lambast Sunderland's defense of Johnson on the basis of morals and our ready acceptance of prospective Saudi ownership I would like to know if you're planning to walk away though

He gave an interview last year after taking the FIFA job saying he'd already turned down numerous English clubs due to his Arsenal connection. Would love him here though.

His departure just emphasizes how skeletal our corporate structure was, it was literally just him

That is obscenely patronizing

Don't talk about the people bombing childrens hospitals unless you don't support any football clubs, is essentially the road you're heading down because there's no team in Europe that won't fear us blowing them out of the water by that line of reasoning. By all means talk about people bombing childrens hospitals if that is what you are passionate about, more power to you. But if you are a mackem who has suddenly grown a conscience and decided to give me a lecture about this newly discovered abomination, then I reserve the right to be sceptical. But I'm not though, I'm quite literally one of your own who has the same concerns as these journalists. The things being highlighted don't hold any less merit because of who's saying it if it can be verified as true. Shooting the messenger and ignoring the substance is how dafties in America have ended up automatically defending war criminals and a corrupt media, solely because Trump's one of the people pointing it out. # I wasn't literally talking about you, I was using the mackem example to make a point. I'm sure you get the point I'm making though. Out of curiosity, are you going to stop following the team all together if this proposed takeover goes through? The more I think about this takeover, the harder it is to acquiesce with. Yet at the same time, it seems like any such takeover in the modern game was destined to be from a source as unpalatable as this. My stance on it at the moment is that I'll continue doing what I'm doing at the moment, not give the club any money and I'll watch us on Telly. I'll see what happens from there, but none of this sits right with me and my concern is that so many of us are so desperate to get rid of Ashley that our fans and the city have done a deal with the devil. I dunno if I'm being hyperbolic, but when I was thinking about it last night I was more worried about what the impact of having someone like that associated with and in and amongst our city could be tbh. Before we even know what the full extent of that'll be, overnight we have a significant amount of people sticking up for war criminals who wouldn't have dreamed of doing so yesterday calling other people hypocrites for pointing out. I'm laughing, but it's shit tbh. Fair enough and I echo those sentiments to a large degree, however I feel that the city will actually be strengthened through their ownership in all criteria, bar morality obviously, be it via greater investment projects in the city or the promise of future success by the club. I do feel that a large proportion of these reactions from our fans is down to the initial euphoria of getting rid of Ashley. The deflection tactics that have been employed by many, exposes how viewed through such a narrow lens, this is purely a celebratory event, we've got our team back etc. Souring this party by highlighting Saudi abuses provokes an almost desperate response from those trying to tune out all other considerations I understand why this happens, we all want success for NUFC, but the irrationality of ignoring these concerns not only stifles meaningful discussion and recognition over the moral quandries, but manifests in kooky conspiracy theories about media bias and false equivalencies to Ashley's business practices Having said all that, there's little we as NUFC fans can really do, and as others have stated ideally, we shouldn't have to choose between sacrificing our personal attachment to the club and upholding moral values This hasn't been helped by various media outlets framing this takeover in such reductive language.

Don't talk about the people bombing childrens hospitals unless you don't support any football clubs, is essentially the road you're heading down because there's no team in Europe that won't fear us blowing them out of the water by that line of reasoning. By all means talk about people bombing childrens hospitals if that is what you are passionate about, more power to you. But if you are a mackem who has suddenly grown a conscience and decided to give me a lecture about this newly discovered abomination, then I reserve the right to be sceptical. But I'm not though, I'm quite literally one of your own who has the same concerns as these journalists. The things being highlighted don't hold any less merit because of who's saying it if it can be verified as true. Shooting the messenger and ignoring the substance is how dafties in America have ended up automatically defending war criminals and a corrupt media, solely because Trump's one of the people pointing it out. # I wasn't literally talking about you, I was using the mackem example to make a point. I'm sure you get the point I'm making though. Out of curiosity, are you going to stop following the team all together if this proposed takeover goes through? The more I think about this takeover, the harder it is to acquiesce with. Yet at the same time, it seems like any such takeover in the modern game was destined to be from a source as unpalatable as this.

Doucoure is a superb player, would love him here

Provided we stay up and this takeover goes through of course... McGinn - Very good centre midfielder, strengthens an area in which we’re solely lacking Fraser - Out of contract in the summer at Bournemouth, excellent player Edouard - We’re clearly desperate for a goalscorer and despite playing in an inferior league, I think this guy has the quality we’re looking for We won’t be able to drastically overhaul the team in just a couple windows, hopefully it will be a gradual evolution

I'd say so

We're 13th in the league with the majority of the season played, he's quite clearly demonstrated that he's incapable of being that man

10 If this takeover goes through, you just know we'll fuck it all up by somehow getting ourselves relegated.

Pochettino Rafa was an outstanding manager, but I would like the club to a have a completely fresh start.

Exactly

We're only 2 points behind Everton, fucking hell , thought they were in the European places

39 goals for Lewandowski this season

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