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Apart from West Brom they couldn’t have handpicked anyone better to play to bounce back from a drubbing like that. 1-3.

There could easily still be a close battle. Football is a very funny game, and things change very quickly in it. A decent run for Fulham, maybe even a really good run of results for West Brom out of the blue, combined with a bad run for us or the other sides around us; that could turn the heat up a notch. We still need five wins and a another draw to be sure we’re safe. Until we have got 38 points (the real safety mark going by all the recent seasons) we could be in a very similar pre-Everton situation at any point. I can see what Yorkie is saying to be honest. Take us for example, we went 11 games without winning, and only took 2 points in that time. We should have been caught in that time by at least one of those teams in the relegation zone. Fulham in the last few days have failed to beat Brighton, and WBA. They also failed to beat us whilst we had that poor run of form. As a consequence we are now 8 points ahead of Fulham, not far off from where were before our bad run. Brighton are now 7 points ahead of them and the closest team to them. WBA have so far failed to gain that new manager bounce they needed. Aye, I get the logic, and it’s sound logic; however, things can change very quick in football. If we lose tomorrow and against Soton then we could be right back in the same shits we looked to be before the Everton game. In my opinion it would be wrong to think we’re safe until we get at least a few more wins under our belt.

There could easily still be a close battle. Football is a very funny game, and things change very quickly in it. A decent run for Fulham, maybe even a really good run of results for West Brom out of the blue, combined with a bad run for us or the other sides around us; that could turn the heat up a notch. We still need five wins and a another draw to be sure we’re safe. Until we have got 38 points (the real safety mark going by all the recent seasons) we could be in a very similar pre-Everton situation at any point.

At the moment with our form, it's got to at least be at an 8. We're in relegation form make no mistake. I still believe we'll find something and escape by our teeth's skin, but every match I begin to doubt it more and more now.

That caught my eye, too. It’s like it was 2009 all over again and Villa had just relegated us with how deflated and dejected they looked. You wouldn’t think there’s still half the season to go.

It may not be this season, we may scrape survival 2015 style, but I have said this even in the rafa days: as long as Mike Ashely owns the club it’s only a matter of when, not if, we get relegated again. The lack of ambition and investment has already bit us twice, and it will bite again.

The reasoning the premier league are giving for the offside is, essentially; that the player didn’t challenge for the through ball (header). When Mings controls the ball with his chest, a new phase of play begins, and the player can challenge for the ball again legally. Either way, it is poor awareness from Mings and bad defending by Villa.

Sp So essentially, going by that list we have eleven ‘winnable’ games left and winning 6 six of them could possible be enough (just about). I believe we’ll do it, but it is going to be close.

Six more wins and a draw in the second half of the season will probably be enough. As shit as we are, we should be able to manage that in 21 games.

This is the most Newcastle thing to ever happen. It could only be us. Any god awful, winless team in the future will be counting down the days until they play us. Easy three points.

Even if this new owner did drop say 5-10m to invest in players, it doesn't guarantee anything. As we all saw with Will Griggs, when clubs know you're desperate and you've got cash, they'll do what they can to fleece you. Their best bet might be to try and buy the best talent in League One, but they'll even have competition from the leagues above at that.

And you could argue it wouldn't have got so bad if were not for the ridiculous red card decision. Bilic at least had them playing some decent football and they could keep the ball. Fat Sam is playing a defensive game with a team that can't defend for their lives.

Don't agree with most of this, all eras end at some stage. Aye, you’re right, but how many would end as quickly when you’ve been in such a advantageous position as Celtic? There’s been basically no competition from 2012 to 2019. This is only the third, arguably second season, of any real competition and they’ve already come tumbling down.

I can't stop laughing every time I see the league table and Rangers so far ahead of Celtic. To let your fierce rivals get that far ahead of you after they were virtually idle for over five years and languished in the lower leagues for four; that takes a laughable level of incompetence from top to bottom. Also hilarious how they won’t sack Lennon because he’s a ‘Celtic man’

Does his quote about only wanting to avoid relegation really surprise anyone. We all know that as long as Ashley is here this will be a deadbeat, unambitious club that merely wants 17th or higher every year. Staying in the league is the best we can hope for with such a money-grabbing unambitious owner. Had the takeover happened and new ambitious owners arrived, Bruce would not have lasted a wet day, and we all know that.

I mean in today’s world it is stupid, especially in a professional context, to mention colour at all. Demba is right to question why he had to bring colour into it at all by mentioning black. He could have just said ‘this guy’ and not cause a storm. Especially when ‘Negru’ looks fairly close to the biggest No-No word.

That has to be the most ridiculous VAR red card yet. I don’t understand for the life of me how you could class that as violent conduct. He’s not even looking at the player.

Depends what terms he left on. If he got a good ‘golden handshake’ he probably won’t be complaining if they reinstate the role with a new kit man. I am sure there is work arounds anyway. Like instead of having a new kit man you incorporate that into some else’s job or some new overall role or some nonsense like that.

8-2 over two games against Sparta Prague :lol: And Rangers the far better team and better run club now despite being three leagues below 8 years ago. Celtic’s turn to be Scotlands laughing stock again. How quickly things change in football, we should keep that in mind when taking the p*ss out of the mackems, especially in an Ashley era. Bit early to say Rangers are a better run club like Perhpas, but I am looking at Celtic’s board and they don’t seem anywhere near as committed as Rangers. Rangers board have broken the bank to sign the likes of Kent, while Celtic’s have sold all their best players (last summer the one exception) and not really replaced them. Celtic chose to stand still and now Rangers appear to be racing past them; they are so much better this year.

8-2 over two games against Sparta Prague :lol: And Rangers the far better team and better run club now despite being three leagues below 8 years ago. Celtic’s turn to be Scotlands laughing stock again. How quickly things change in football, we should keep that in mind when taking the piss out of the mackems, especially in an Ashley era.

Probably a lottery system for season ticket holders, or else longest-serving season ticket holders get priority.

This is from Sky: “Since the start of last season, Man Utd have taken (18) and scored (13) more Premier League penalties than any other side. 16 per cent of their goals have been from penalties in that time (13/79), the highest ratio of any side to have played in both seasons”. Look, I was joking when I said refs support them, but I really do believe refs feel extra pressure when reffing the big clubs and that’s why they always seems to get thing in their favor.

:lol: Do you ever take a wee second and think how ridiculous this sounds? Come on man. I was obviously joking about starting 1 up and what not, but the amount of pens they get is mental. I think the only folk who will agree with you about the Brom peno not being a pen are other Man U fans. I also thought I saw Gallagher was fouled before the Man U pen.

Outrageous . I swear every ref in the league is a secret Man U fan. It’s got so ridiculous that you might as well let them start every game 1 up at this point.

You're overrestimating how good a lot of those teams are. Maybe, but I just think of they can do well in europe and reach the last 16 (reckon they’ll get at least that far again), they could get past a few shit premier league sides. Let’s not overestimate how good some of the bottom six EPL teams are, either.