Wolfcastle

Barbarity this c*nt

Seems nailed on for a lucky late winner for Villa after defending all game. Forest Chelsea impossible to call still.

Expected nothing less, knew it would be a brutal day. Typical game against Everton just with different stakes. They defend well and dangerous in the counter. Early goal to prevent them bedding it in was so important.

Its possible and I'm certainly not in the guarantee 6poins and what a wheeze the derbies are camp but Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton are much bigger clubs than Brentford and Brighton and they didn't establish anything but new lows.

Its what total knobheads that this gives them the chance to be that bothers me rather than any insecurities. They may very well never finish above us or be better than us again (but thats been extremely rare anyway and it never stopped the knobheadedness) Case in point is how finishing highest which they alone made a massive big deal about has been completely abandoned as a concept (again). The way they went on when they were above us for a week in a season we finish 2nd, beat them in the last game at Roker and they got relegated again lingers. Only way to avoid having to reason with them is avoid them altogether.

Cant make a case for them staying up even with the luck they have. Would much rather they never came up ever again. They're absolute dickheads. Bollocks to missing the derbies. Would gladly have never had one again and it faded to something akin to Boro. Every game's a big game for us now. Local disputes are for them and the Ashley era.

That's probably happened about 3 times in half a century. So there's no justification for not minding them being in the same league

All that was pointed out in the post and howay man, even 20years ago Middlesbrough were beating better Roma teams in this comp

Its one thing for shit teams to win the FA cup. They're still in there with good teams, whether they play them or not is a game of chance but they'd be unlikely not to at some point. There are no good teams in the Europa League as they're all in the CL and none drop into it anymore. Remember saying to a lad at work that it wasn't a shock if Stoke beat Valencia anymore because of the difference in finances. Its even more pronounced with the elite/self appointed elite PL clubs in there

Basically Forest, Chelsea, Villa have to better our result

Cant stand Spurs, never could. Then I remember the commentary on the Lyon match for these, so...

On every level because it was supposed to be European Champions versus Cup Winners Cup winners not the UEFA

Would have preferred it to go to pens so it read like a draw and the winner in brackets - that would have been appropriately dismal end to this whole sorry affair.

Sum up this whole occasion in a goal

Prefer my on the beach no form between them 16th v 17th Premier League games to be at Bournemouth or Birmingham than the second highest stage in European football

Their arbitrary, non-coincidental, made up parameters to inflate their stature is a big reason why I cant be doing with them, they need more humility before I'd have them back. Maybe a round 100years since they were last a big club at some point in the 2030's will be the right time. Maybe it'll sink in then. But you know they'll be a bigger club and better team than us if they're above us for a week in August (see 1996) and how they get 46,000 every week, except the 95% of the time they haven't since they moved there.

How many of them beat us away or on neutral ground?

7 halfs to 1, 3wins to 1, 1trophy to 0. Even a blind squirrel happens across the odd acorn

He's one of those that's a way better player when he doesn't play than when he does

Cant complain about any changes that are made when we've as many players out as we have, you're bringing on somebody that's not good enough no matter what you do

Suppose there's always this - Wilson is the kind of forward to have a quiet game, but notch

Cant ask for more of a performance than that, given the injuries too. Just hope we get what we've deserved. Come on powers that be, can't ask fairer than that

Couple saves fair enough, but into one of those games territory now

All our competitors in Man United 96 form or better. Would be wouldn't they.

Been thinking about a draw all week. In an ordinary game I'd probably expect that. Hope and expect our desire and the necessity for us will make the difference.