Kid Icarus

Front of the Gallowgate (at least) would be unreal

Think this has a bit of a Bournemouth at home feel to it now with SBR's birthday mixed with the awful news about poor Christian Atsu. Hardly important like, but I hope we give them both a performance worth dedicating to them.

Oh don't worry, there'll be no chance of that. Gary Neville et al will just say that "it's important that we have the conversation" at that'll be that.

Horrible news like. Made all the worse for his family after everyone thought he had been found alive.

That is fucking outrageous I almost don't believe you

Henry, Bergkamp etc aren't 9s tbf, which is what they were asking. I know Owen's not exactly the classic 9, but I get what they're asking with that list, as him and Inzaghi were poachers, but I wouldn't really get it if Henry and Bergkamp were on there. Agree that RVN would make the list and that MVB absolutely should, even if I don't remember him first hand.

1. Ronaldo Then the actual list: 2. Shearer 3. Shevchenko 4. Crespo 5. Adriano 6. Owen 7. Larsson 8. Inzaghi Batistuta and Weah should be included tbh and would make it harder to do.

No doubt but I count that as part of it. If we'd replaced Shelvey, I wouldn't consider selling Shelvey a mistake.

I've added the excuses to my post. As if my most popular post ever on here is about Alan fucking Pardew

It's not even a question, anyone who saw Ronaldo at his peak is choosing Ronaldo. The only two that you could really have a preference for are Shearer and Shevchenko because Ronaldo wasn't aerially dominant to the extent they were, but overall they and everyone else was nowhere near what Ronaldo was at his peak.

Outstanding! The right words, at the right tempo, and sang with passion.

Those terrible Newcastle fans, going after Steve Bruce's family by forcing his son to stick his oar in.

It's a sweet deal in isolation, but I can't help but think that giving them Shelvey makes up for it.

Should mine not be 38? Edit: Ignore iz

The one thing other thing I'll say is that like a lot of people, when Rafa went I was done, I watched Match of the Day and that was it, so I had no idea what Bruce was like. I know there are people who continued watching and claim that Bruce was way worse than Pardew. If that's true, then you have my deepest sympathies because Pardew was fucking awful in just about every way.

Aye: Our record when losing at half time was W:1 D:7 L:38, managing 10 points from a possible 141

and FWIW I enjoyed 11-12 as well, particularly the end of it, but it didn't take long into 12-13 to work out that even if any of it had much to do with Pardew, he for some bizarre reason went out of his way to undo everything that was good about it. That 4231 that worked so well was never once seen again in 12-13, instead with him opting to play a 442 that meant HBA was picking up the ball half way in his own half and expected to perform miracles, and Jonas Gutierrez, someone who was effective as the runner in the midfield 3 in 11-12 was then expected to play as a winger, something he was completely hopeless at aside from covering for Santon's defensive shortcomings. Tiote and Cabaye, 2 good players at the time were regualrly overrun in midfield, and Ba was having to drop in and help out, completely blunting his attacking side. It was just a total mess and totally his own doing.

The Pardew revisionism is a joke like, you often see it on our Reddit page. Even if you look past the atrocious football, he was Ashley's mouthpiece, constantly attempting to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds. Acting on like he was hard done to, his hands were tied, players were sold behind his back, all things he had no problem leaning on while also paying homage to Ashley, defending Joe Kinnear, taking the job behind Chris Hughton's back, accepting an 8 year contract knowing the situation, and relentlessly and snidely bringing up that all of our players were for sale and had release clauses - basically akin to someone walking through Benwell with a megaphone going "I hope I don't get mugged!" He did it time and again with Ba, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, and Tiote. As I've said countless times, he's football's Lyle Lanley and time and time again people are taken in by his con-artist act with hokey revisionism because of 11-12. Noone successfully instilled the idea that Newcastle are just also-rans who can't compete, can't keep their players, and should know their place better than Pardew imo. That was the time you first started to notice it amongst fans that Ashley's rhetoric would make it into conversations with fans, imo via Pardew and his constant downplaying of what was possible. Then beyond the propaganda there were the excuses, the lies, the digs at the fans, the tributes to Ashley, and the embarrasment of him nutting Neylor, pushing a linesman, calling Pellegrini an old cunt etc. He was a complete cunt. Then when you get to the football, he had by far the best post-SBR squad that Newcastle have assembled imo. He had the likes of HBA, Ba, Remy, Cabaye, Tiote, Coloccini, Debuchy, Sissoko, on a silver platter and served up the worst football I've ever seen at Newcastle, breaking countless all time records for being absolutely shit in just about every way. Meanwhile, Rafa, someone it's laughable to compare his record at Newcastle with, was forced to bumble around the bargain basement and expected to make up the difference with his own talent. You'll notice that that was a running theme with Ashley - shit manager? Better spend some money on players! Good manager? We don't need to spend any money on players then! Just a reminder of some of the records Pardew has as Newcastle manager, in case anyone makes the mistake of putting on their rose-tinted glasses. Our defence Our goal difference under Pardew was -40, the combined goal difference under Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton was -32 Prior to Pardew, Newcastle had only lost 35 Premier League games by 3 goals or more. Under Pardew alone we lost by more than 3 goals 22 times - more than any other Premier League club during his tenure Our 0-6 home defeat to Liverpool was the biggest home loss by Newcastle since 1925 Our attack Our record when losing at half time was W:1 D:7 L:38, managing 10 points from a possible 141 We didn't score from a corner for 102 matches - nearly 2 weeks worth of continuous football In 2014 alone we failed to score in half of our matches Under Pardew our PPG (including the 5th season remember) was 1.34 points In 2014 alone we had the second lowest goals tally in the top 4 tiers Losing streaks In every season under Pardew we went at least a third of it without winning First Newcastle manager to lose 6 consecutive games We lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a single goal - the first time that this has happened in our history Most amount of home defeats in 12-13 with probably the best post-SBR Newcastle squad Derbies Pardew managed 5 goals in 8 matches against Sunderland, something Hughton managed in 1 match before being sacked for not being good enough We conceded more goals against Sunderland with Pardew as manager of Newcastle than Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (12 vs 11) He managed a holy trinity of: failing to score in a derby for the first time since 1989, failing to score in a home derby for the first time since 1983, and managing it twice in a row for the first time since 1901 He managed us to our first 4 consecutive derby losses in the history of the club The excuses The crowd got too excited and the players got wrapped up in that Young players being inexperienced Not being backed by a sovereign state The expectations put on the players to perform There weren't enough fans in the stadium (30,000) Too many tournaments (World Cup, Olympics, African Cup of Nations) ignoring that that applied to every Premier League team The transfer market was quiet because the Olympics was on We couldn't move the date of a game that we went on to lose because of Notting Hill Carnival Spies are watching our training sessions Senegal were to blame for us not playing Cisse The talk about our formation is getting in the way of players doing the basics right Social media puts too much pressure on players and managers Not having enough players (in the January after stating he was delighted that we'd only signed Vernon Anita and managed to keep hold of our players) The crowd being negative (after he took Cabaye off when we were drawing with Reading at home) The Europa League getting in the way/spoiling our league form Our players being too small The grass being too long for his liking Arsenal bidding on Cabaye before we played Man City (we lost 4-0) Having too many foreign players Love tearing us apart (he said that the fans love the club so much that it hurts itself) Science being against him after going out of the third round of the F.A Cup again (to Ole Gunnar Solksjaer's Cardiff City) Having 46 points and therefore being too safe Us being above Southampton gave them extra motivation to beat us His touchline ban affecting the players - if he'd been there it apparently would have been different - hard cut to him on the touchline for the next match vs Arsenal, shouting "no more goals" to the players and us conceding 6 goals.

Villa 1 v 2 Arsenal Brentford 2 v 1 Palace Brighton 1 v 1 Fulham Chelsea 2 v 0 Southampton Everton 1 v 0 Leeds Forest 0 v 3 Man City (double) Wolves 2 v 0 Bournemouth Newcastle 1 v 1 Liverpool Man United 2 v 1 Leicester Spurs 2 v 1 West Ham

Where are yous watching the actual match? My mates are wanting to watch it in one of our houses and I feel like we should be in town.

Hopefully ASM/Gordon can step up and Joelinton can start bossing it from midfield.

E-I-E-I-E-I-O

I've seen this film before. Can't believe I thought Arsenal might do it, what a schmuck.

He said ever present in our best 11 rather than best player I'm worried like, I think he's a massive player for us personally

Regrettable attitude? Areet Chaucer. Referees absolutely don't deserve respect, they earn respect like everyone else. Good referees earn respect in one way or another, any referee that is demonstrably incompetent earns less respect.