Kid Icarus

I get what Collage is saying like, Messi and Ronaldo have taken it to a level where Ronaldinho's maybe been a victim of it, but I still hear people mention him a lot like and I don't think he'll be as overlooked in the all time stakes as the incredible players who played at the same time as Messi and Ronaldo possibly will. Xavi, Iniesta, Suarez, and loads of others might fall by the wayside in future debates despite being easily on the same level or higher as most of the best players in the world that came before those two. Iniesta in particular would be talked about alongside, if not seen as better than Zidane imo (not to kick that debate off again like )

I wouldn't say so, but Village Idiot[/member] might disagree. I think there was a dip in quality at the top around the turn of the millenium tbh. Rivaldo, Figo, Nedved etc were mint, but I always felt like there were slim pickings and the quality wasn't as good as what came before and after it.

Presumably these are the riveting conversations everyone wants to get back to when they're complaining about the ethics conversation playing out.

Hahahahaha, it's done more than leaked!!!!!

41. Haven't even heard of the ones I didn't get tbh.

Just to clarify, the only thing I'm saying here is that I don't think support for the takeover among fans would be anywhere near as high as 96.7%. That doesn't mean it still wouldn't be 60% or 70% or whatever. Having any group of people be as unanimous as 96.7% on anything is pretty unusual and I don't think Freddie Shepherd would have got anywhere near to provoking that outcome to the extent that Ashley has.

Of course. Though forgiveness costs freedom to move in and out of the homeland and a million dollar house. They’ve been bought, with money and their lives (I can only imagine There is a real threat to them if they didn’t toe the party line) Their price for that has been set, ours yet to come for success. It does however for me at least dilute the narrative the NUFC fans should be ashamed to allow them in to the club for the sake of trophies. Aye, he hasn't even had to make our fan base the offer it couldn't refuse because it's already been dom'ed into spreading its arse cheeks for anyone who isn't Ashley. Understandably so and probably one of the reasons they chose us. The club has been lubed up ready to take whatever comes next, as long as it’s not Ashley. NE5 was a good decade ahead of the rest of us, imagine that. Aye, when your blind love for Freddy Shepherd makes you fall on the correct answer is how I'd frame that like.

Of course. Though forgiveness costs freedom to move in and out of the homeland and a million dollar house. They’ve been bought, with money and their lives (I can only imagine There is a real threat to them if they didn’t toe the party line) Their price for that has been set, ours yet to come for success. It does however for me at least dilute the narrative the NUFC fans should be ashamed to allow them in to the club for the sake of trophies. Aye, he hasn't even had to make our fan base the offer it couldn't refuse because it's already been dom'ed into spreading its arse cheeks for anyone who isn't Ashley. Understandably so and probably one of the reasons they chose us. Not sure that’s the case. You think a massive 96.7% of our fans (recent NUST survey among almost 3,400 fans) would have been in favour of the Saudi state (knowing everything we know about them) taking over the club at the end of Shepherd's reign? I don't think it would have been that high personally, I think it's taken a good 13 years of destroying the club and for desperation to have grown and grown for the consensus to be that overwhelming.

Of course. Though forgiveness costs freedom to move in and out of the homeland and a million dollar house. They’ve been bought, with money and their lives (I can only imagine There is a real threat to them if they didn’t toe the party line) Their price for that has been set, ours yet to come for success. It does however for me at least dilute the narrative the NUFC fans should be ashamed to allow them in to the club for the sake of trophies. Aye, he hasn't even had to make our fan base the offer it couldn't refuse because it's already been dom'ed into spreading its arse cheeks for anyone who isn't Ashley. Understandably so and probably one of the reasons they chose us.

Exactly. I think you'd have to be pretty naive to take that at face value like.

Looks like the side of an aging leisure centre vending machine.

Not to invite the whole virtue signalling thing like, but isn't saying that you don't care about her situation, that she's being used, that she needs to complain to other organisations for her cause to have merit, or that she simply needs to fuck off, not all just as bad as some throwaway insult?

Ironic since I doubt Cengiz has a clue about anything to do with ours. Not sure how that's ironic tbh. Particularly when one of the arguments I've seen is that the opposition to this deal is because there's a vendetta specifically against Newcastle United.

And they say sportswashing doesn't work. Yeah, I'm sure everyone on here would definitely just give up and walk away if the person who had their future wife dismembered still hadn't faced justice, just so some miscellaneous football fans overseas can have a sugar daddy. Should read the replies to the chronicle tweet, it’s already happened. Loads of “this is boring! Qataris crossing her hands with gold!” Not surprising at all like, local paper comments sections are possibly worse than Facebook. This is so true. You said this before a couple of years ago and I never went back to read them because of how mad it made me and how you summed it up. Thank you for that damn fine bit of life insight as it probably helped my blood pressure a lot. Haha, no problem! I don't remember me saying it like, but I'll take the W

It's the selfish nature the human race is unfortunately. Something that is emotionally closer to someone is always going to take precedent. People being murdered no matter who or where is always horrific, but trying to get someone to side with a total stranger over something that is emotionally closer to them, is always going to be hard. Like you mentioned, most people will only get invested seriously if it happens to them. Fair points. I totally get people pursuing their material interests like and it's just a sad fact of life that that can be manipulated to this extent. I just don't get why for some that extends to being openly hostile towards a widow fighting her own battle that every single one of us on here would fight if we were in her position. It just seems deranged and completely devoid of perspective tbh.

But people get murdered every day, whether state sponsored or not, i.e Russia with the poisoning case in Salisbury. To me I support NUFC and live in the North East. I saw the news when it happened and my reaction was that sounds awful. Did I give it a second thought after that, no. If the NUFC gets taking over, will I give it another thought, probably not. NUFC is about football, if I was interested in Politics and Human Rights Abuse I would join the various groups. Sorry if people think that is an awful stance but that is how I look at it, each to their own! People getting murdered every day isn't a reason to go out and bat for the people doing the murdering. Totally get what you're saying about not giving it a second thought, but the whole point is that it's now come into our NUFC world and the two aren't separate anymore, whether we like it or not.

Yes. We've had about 50 pages of it at various points in the thread. Imagine the law was like this and rather than refer to case law or precedent they had to go through every argument over and over for every case. It's bonkers. Can't say I've seen any comments from the two posters I was speaking to tbh. Well yeah it would be if it was the law, but it's a football forum during a takeover and isolation. Think it could be a lot worse considering the circumstances tbh.

Genuinely, in all of this have any of you ever even considered for a single second what you'd do if someone murdered and dismembered your wives without facing justice? And then maybe considered just how removed from perspective someone saying that you sending repeated requests to the FA "isn't on" might be?

"What is a club in any case...?"

And they say sportswashing doesn't work. Yeah, I'm sure everyone on here would definitely just give up and walk away if the person who had their future wife dismembered still hadn't faced justice, just so some miscellaneous football fans overseas can have a sugar daddy. Should read the replies to the chronicle tweet, it’s already happened. Loads of “this is boring! Qataris crossing her hands with gold!” Not surprising at all like, local paper comments sections are possibly worse than Facebook.

Truly the pits. Awful post. Only when she takes it up with Uber, Disney and Facebook can she then have the green light for a go at us. Whole thing stinks of Qatari influence tbqh. Put down the koolaid, man, howeh. She's done all of that elsewhere. Are you really comfortable with the position you're putting yourself in? Putting it out there that you think a grieving widow has to somehow prove her intentions beyond not wanting her husband's murderer to expand his influence.

And they say sportswashing doesn't work. Yeah, I'm sure everyone on here would definitely just give up and walk away if the person who had their future wife dismembered still hadn't faced justice, just so some miscellaneous football fans overseas can have a sugar daddy.

Would be fucking amazing.