Kid Icarus

Deserved or unfair? @Froggy

Everything about those messages screams central or southern Asian man who lost a bet.

West Ham 1-1 Forest Bournemouth 2-1 Spurs Brentford 1-1 Sunderland Palace 1-2 Villa Everton 2-1 Wolves Fulham 1-2 Chelsea Man City 2-1 Brighton Burnley 1-2 Man United Newcastle 2-1 Leeds Arsenal 3-1 Liverpool

We'll see. Having a good squad rarely overrides having a bad manager imo.

Yeah and I'd be shocked if he managed that consistently. Far too competitive a league these days.

It seems like in those circumstances they also expect success, which is the part that looks like it'll be his downfall

Liam Rosenior ffs

Yeah he was the invisible man in away games. I'm classing this more like him at Liverpool.

Remy's my favourite Ashley-era striker. Not sure I could see him pressing though, whereas Ba and Wilson would. Honestly think it's Wijnaldum by a mile like. The epitome of a Howe midfielder and a really good and successful one at that.

Haven't we all?

Don't fall into this trap JB

Said it before but he's completed football and is pure output. If that's not happening it's tough for him. Didn't think he was all that bad though tbh, just quiet.

Feel like this is always a rank match, even going all the way back to the '90s.

I have a feeling there are a lot of high scores this week. Think I'm on 37 with Man City vs Chelsea to go.

Being sensible: Wijnaldum Not being sensible: You know who.

Thought he was really good with them for the most part. Even the slightly wayward ones let us pin them back.

Thought he was shit first half and better second.

100% passing is insane considering how often he had the ball. Last time I remember that happening was Tiote's debut against Everton in 2010.

Completely different player at 2-0 to the one we saw at 0-0.

2 points off 5th and still in all competitions despite being really sketchy is excellent. A result like that always feels available to us because of how tight everything is.

Tonali's developed this weird habit of treating passes to him that clearly aren't one-twos as one-twos. The passing that involves him is quite often really chaotic. Hope he just needs a bit of a rest and it's a form thing.

A couple of times I've thought "I hope he doesn't just keep trying to score from corners now" immediately before he almost scores from another corner.

Apologies everyone, I forgot the decimal point. Fucking hell what a miss. Shades of Dyer vs Birmingham.

Hall and Tonali being incredibly sloppy.

Feel so much more relaxed with Pope in goal. Not to say I'm relaxed like, just more relaxed.