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Players were also close to owners who’ve left, definitely been an unsettling summer and might take time for things to settle, nights like tonight will help. -
With Tonali back I’d love a more technical creative player with Joe as back up, it’s all just to much of the same in there for me.
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Open wounds still clearly from Ashley era when it comes to deadline day, difference is this lot will be doing everything to get the right players in and it won’t be due to a lack of effort. Think where trying for the very best and it’s important we don’t just settle if we want to make next step, the buzz of a new signing sharp wears off if they’re shite, if they can’t get the right player so be it and sure they’ll communicate afterwards if that’s the case.
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We’ll be fine a lot of growth in value for them to exploit in us yet they’re going nowhere happily.
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It’s Bastoni any objections if I start a thread ?
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Hope this has legs think he’d be a brilliant alternative to Guehi.
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Trouble making mackem cunt ban her.
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Has to be the continent Simakan or Diomande perhaps ? but unless they’ve done spadework already I fear time will be against us.
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Share same concerns where to risk adverse and obsessed with PL experience, hopefully Mitchell can influence this going forward.
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Maybe everyone and myself included just need to accept it’s going to take a good few windows due to PSR to sort out the mess of the Ashley era. Could we do things differently and exploit the market better perhaps, but still happy to trust the process and think Mitchell is a decent appointment to oversee it.
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Fond memories of the Mars Bars raining down on him heady days.
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Centre Backs imperative could we have juggled funds better to cover both, not sure apart from Olise and maybe Neto I’m struggling to think who I’d have gone for this summer on the right. I do feel a young exciting right winger from abroad with potential would have sufficed, like the lad from Braga or Benfica who was mentioned on here. Not ideal but get Guehi and Tonali back makes us look much stronger, move Gordon to the right and see what Barnes is made of.
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Due to Amanda and Mehrdad leaving perhaps, they seem to have been given an ear by them and Hope was even pictured on a train with Caulkin and Staveley.
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My take is that Mitchell is fully behind Howe and by authorising 70 million on Guehi it’s a massive vote of confidence in manager. I think Douglas is spot on in questioning the transfer policy, but let’s give Mitchell more than this window to address that, it’s also up to Howe to be flexible going forward as well, his power may be diluted in the new set up, but how many big clubs could he manage with complete control on transfers the answer is none.
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What to expect from Newcastle’s final week of the transfer window Exits are possible but Newcastle are waiting for dominoes to fall Mark Douglas Newcastle United are trying to do two deals before the end of the transfer window as they kick off a pivotal week that will set the tone for the season ahead. There is no doubting the importance of the next few days for the club’s key figures after a tense and occasionally fractious summer at St James’ Park. Deals have been tough, Profitability and Sustainability Regulations (PSR) taxing and disagreements have bubbled under the surface but no players who lift the level of the starting XI emphatically have arrived. That is significant given it is now 38 days since Eddie Howe, reflecting on whether the dynamic with new director of football Paul Mitchell could work, said the “transfer window is absolutely massive”. The mood in the club’s new executive set-up is said to remain calm but finally brokering a deal for a centre-back – with Crystal Palace’s Marc Guehi still the top target and dialogue ongoing over the structure of a proposed £65m move – is a minimum requirement. The second deal, much more difficult to do and perhaps reliant on outgoings, is a right winger with eyes now said to have turned overseas on that front after domestic targets were priced out of their reach. There are no guarantees on that front. Other deals – they admire James Trafford of Burnley and see him as a potential long-term successor to Nick Pope while younger players who may be loaned back to their clubs have been looked at all summer – appear less likely given time and PSR constraints. Exits are possible but Newcastle are waiting for dominoes to fall. Kieran Trippier’s cameo at Bournemouth emphasised his importance to the group and Howe is hopeful of preventing his departure, with no firm bids for him at this point. There has been no fresh interest in Miguel Almiron, another player Newcastle would allow to leave for the right price. One message percolating from the top is how difficult it is to get players capable of substantially improving a decent first XI and how throwing money at the situation for the wrong profile of incoming is pointless but to put it bluntly: doing nothing is not an option. There would be major questions to ask if, for the second transfer window running, no ready-made first team additions were added to Howe’s squad. “It’s one of the most important weeks for the club since the takeover,” Alex Hurst, host of the True Faith podcast and former chair of the Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST), tells i. “You can lose a season in a week and this one is absolutely massive for Newcastle. Four points from two games is a good return but I don’t think we’ve been hugely convincing in either and it could easily be zero points. “The League Cup game is huge and then the club need to help Eddie [Howe] by bringing in new players and selling some other ones. I think if they don’t do that there will be an increasing number of people asking what the direction of the club and the ambition and overall aims are.” For Mitchell, who has been at the club since the start of July, this is a long-term project, and allies argue that he needs times to embed his systems and way of working. But having been brought in to shake up the way Newcastle recruit – and as a specialist in the area – he has to deliver. Part of that might be taking things to the wire to get the Magpies the best possible deals – every £5m has a big impact on PSR headroom – but he will inevitably be judged on the outcome of the Guehi deal that has dragged on and who walks through the door before Friday. There are alternatives but the optimistic links with Bayer Leverkusen’s Edmond Tapsoba can almost certainly put to bed with the Bundesligaclub not contemplating a sale and the player happy to remain in Germany. “Whether it’s fair or not, it’s a massive week for Paul Mitchell,” Hurst says. “When he was brought to the club above Eddie Howe the one thing they had to do was deliver – and quickly – but that hasn’t happened yet. And it feels as if there’s a lot riding on Guehi because whatever happens, they’ve spent a month chasing him. “If they don’t get him, it won’t look good so there is that element of pressure on.” Whatever happens it feels as if Newcastle’s recruitment processes probably need studying. Player trading is key in the PSR world, but they remain sluggish sellers, unable – so far – to even find a buyer for Ryan Fraser. A slew of contracts up for renewal in 2025 mean an overhaul is around the corner but there is another transfer window and a critical week before then. Why Newcastle still primarily shop in the domestic market when they have invested heavily on beefing up global scouting networks also seems like a viable question for the future. Since signing Sandro Tonali, their last eight signings have arrived from English teams.
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Do long protracted transfers like these ever end up well, feels like the pressure ramps up even more on player. At 70 million where having our pants pulled down here, but fear we’ve got nowhere else to turn at this late stage.
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Nah will be loan and pay later deal for Trafford.
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Certainly not a transfer window to get the juices flowing, think the only link that got me remotely excited was Olise.
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The top 6 are happy as still able to spend due to their incomes, majority of other owners are in it for a profit and have no will to lose hundreds of millions, aligned with UEFA’s rules nothing is changing we need to be smart and adapt.
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We’ve become paralysed by PSR and the fear of getting it wrong, we seem reluctant to take a chance anymore and by default stuck with paying a premium on PL experience. A perfect example is the Bournemouth left back who we scouted heavily, but again failed to pull the trigger on last summer and his value has doubled now. Instead we paid big money for Lewis Hall and Tino, I’d say they got far better value and arguably the better player.
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I’ve changed my tune was all for cashing in due to PSR, but unless where getting 15 million plus don’t see the point. Think another year of nurturing Tino might be the best option here, especially with only Krath as back up leaves us looking really short of quality down the right.
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Take Bruno and Schar out of the team and I’m not convinced we have that many technically gifted players capable of retaining possession, where blessed with running ability and physical players, but this stood out like a sore thumb in Europe, we simply can’t control games and that’s down to the profile of player we seem to want.
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Back 3 would suit Kelly unfortunately we rarely play that system. Think he’s decent cover when everyone’s fit and if you want a sub to shore things up late in the game. Do not want to see him regularly at left back in place of Hall, would really impact his development this season.
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It’s poor we give the ball away so cheaply, desperately hoping Tonali improves things in that respect.
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Who gives a fuck no one cares what these shit journalists with agendas write.