Jonas

Dirty Dan definitely serving Angie the divorce papers then

Amongst the many misgivings I've had about the rules is that placing more importance on the fanbase revenue stream by restricting others, was only going to hurt fans.

Booked Joelinton for a shirt pull so thought that was the gage. Brighton had to have gotten away with the same thing 20x thereafter. Either without the same punishment or without even a foul. Seemed just pot luck which of their injury feigning on the ground he bought and which he waved on - probably based his lotto numbers on it or something. Helped make an already wretched game worse to the point it shouldn't have been possible to lose control so laboured was it but he managed it.

What would we expect of any replacement though. It would have to be better than challenging for the CL every season and two cup finals. Its a big ask. Its really stale right now, we know the reason why and if were forbidden from doing anything about it there is the arguement that a change in manager could freshen things up but with our squad I highly doubt it personally.

More absoutely classic pre cup final NUFC stuff. That's now, since getting to the last four finals - Played 20, Won 3 (unconvincingly)

Don't think its an exaggeration that 90% of the games I've seen against Brighton have been absolutely dire affairs.

So add Swansea. Take away Bradford and Wimbledon as it was the Intertoto. I make that 33 clubs have more European pedigree than them - so joint 34th with Coventry and Hull. Some going that.

Crushing competitiveness out of your own league for 40years with 1.5 other clubs was perfectly alright though.

Totally agree its a different era now. So this is probably redundant but historically if you left out league one their average since the 70s is probably lower still as their gates in league one would have been way better than what they got in the 80s. 15-16k was a good crowd for them then/ In the first six years of Premier League football they sold out (28-40k capacity) to not selling out 32 times to 82. 12 of the 32 were at 28k capacity. Someone posted that their 12th historically and that feels right.

Comes up smelling of roses every time. Not surprising with the amount of pruning he does.

In the last 40 plus years 26k is about their average attendance.

Trelford Mills the VAR official.

Our record since getting to the last four finals - Played 19, Won 3 (unconvincingly)

Must have got my wires crossed, was listing teams that had played in Europe, wasn't sure how many games. Don't know what the 4 is about.

St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Raith, St Mirren definitely have, got to imagine Dundee too, did Gretna not? *forgot Stoke before, so 32 teams (at least - Sheffield United, Burnley not sure about) (not including Wimbledon and Bradford in the intertoto)

They'd become at least the 31st club from England to have played more games in Europe than Sunderland if that happened. Would love to know what the equivalent of that is in other countries for perspective....and frankly a laugh

I've seen us win there more than lose in the flesh. Wont be going to this so for that and some other equally meaningful reasons - a narrow defeat will have to do.

We've infiltrated every facet of their lives. Ticket offices, club stores, policing and stewarding, away fans and now furnishing the foyers. But especially their brains.

Agree with the principal and on the freshness but from a different perspective, Forest and Bournemouth and some others to a lesser extent are the only thing this season has going for it. The championship and relegation places - the two main things - are all but sorted by mid-Feb - how many seasons can that have been said of. On the other hand the top 4 is a very artificial construct and I'd imagine if there'd been a top four scenario most seasons would have multiple teams feasibly in with a shout at this point.

Beat a good team that's above us, gone up to 5th, seven goals, cup final on the horizon but how dare a game of two halves transpire. Football doesn't work as logically as if you're 4-1 up at half-time then it must be something akin to 8-2 at the end. Overwhelming majority of the time when a games won at half-time the second-hal fizzles out and the losing team gets momentum

Its not just the PSR rules holding clubs back its that it will only ever lead to the already advantaged getting more and more money relative to everyone else. Where's the absurdum infinitum arguments re competitiveness should APT or PSR and the like be ditched or slackened about that.

Also only experienced that against Man United, but a few years later (actually our next time there). Didn't we sing it to a different pace with claps and pauses? One of my worst memories of our fans is some singing it at home to Man United in 97/98 and, fair play, their fans chanting back "who the f*ck do you support?"

Looks like a bigger version of White Hart Lane. Screens in the same place, seat colour and everything. Different to the norm new stadiums yet still samey. Would be a very bitter pill to fetch up with just a bigger version of that.

Tell you what was a catchy number that you could sing for ages - the Andy Cole song. After a few verses was like it was automatic, even if you stopped singing to talk to someone the hands kept clapping to that beat and you rejoined.

That's where I always place it. With the Gallowgate of all things, because the year before with the new Leazes and the exact same stand as the jumpingest part even with a reduced Gallowgate and the year before that with two gaping open ends the atmosphere was great.