Dave Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's often shite. It's often fine. So it ranges from shite to "fine". You couldn't quite bring yourself to say good, could you. "It's often shite, and it's sometimes..........alright....ish." Fine as in good. Seriously though, I do think he's worth persevering with. His power, pace and trickery will get us enough goals over a season, even if he should get more. Be interesting to see him playing with Viduka now Owen is out. Also, like it or not, Martins is normally fit, which immediately makes him more useful to us than Owen even though the relative class is worlds apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Martins clearly doesnt have adeybayor's footballing brain though, even if he didnt score goals he contributed to arsenals flowing attacks, martins ball at feet, look down for 5 minutes gets out of feat then dribbles, quickly ball goes back under feet, gets tackled looks at fans/ground apologetically/throws bitch fit, fellow team mate looks on in 30 yards of space. repeat on a regulat basis throughout 90 mins. it doesnt matter if you have all the raw attributes, if ya thick as S**t you wnt be good enough to get were us as fans demand the club gets back to. The blessed relief of finally discovering someone else who sees this lad for what he is. He's not 22 either btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 What was so bad about tonight, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 What was so bad about tonight, then? He missed a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We'd be fuked if Martins picks up a lengthy injury right now. No we wouldn't, we've got Alan Smith with his 3 goals in his last 90 appearances. We'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 What was so bad about tonight, then? Our great and overhyped team lost to a bunch of kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 What was so bad about tonight, then? He missed a chance. Yet to be verified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. sorry but adebayor and drogba have always had awareness of teammates and the situation around them, thats why on the ball they have so much space because there touch is instant and they read the game so well, martins is nowhere near that level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We'd be fuked if Martins picks up a lengthy injury right now. No we wouldn't, we've got Alan Smith with his 3 goals in his last 90 appearances. We'll be fine. Quick question: Martins or Smith up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's often shite. It's often fine. So it ranges from shite to "fine". You couldn't quite bring yourself to say good, could you. "It's often shite, and it's sometimes..........alright....ish." Your sole purpose in this thread seems to be to remind everybody how shite Martins is, despite the fact you couldn't provide a better alternative to start when Owen's not fit (which is quite a lot of the time tbf). I don't know why Martins is coming in for so much stick on a night we could have lost by eight. We were outplayed and unless Martins was alone playing in a 0-0-1 formation, I don't see why he is getting so much stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. So now he's as good as Drogba or Adebayor, it's just that he's playing with the wrong team mates? By the way, Adebayor's touch pisses all over Martins'. Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to say that Adebayor and Drogba "don't have the best touch or awareness" in an attempt to defend Martins. you have to be kidding me if we ask Ash now how good adebayors touch is, he would say absolutely shite, his touch is fucking awful as is drogbas who knees it everywhere. also last season adebayor was absolutely awful he missed plenty of sitters, coincedence that he was on the bench last season alot (apart from when henry was injured), like martins, i think not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Milner is not shite, just average, he'll never be a top player, or even a very good one. has a terminal lack of pace and only average technical ability so it is not like he can compensate for it. he's the right-wing equivalent of steven taylor, only centre-halfs get better as they physically deteriorate, while, apart from the best, most wingers fade away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We'd be fuked if Martins picks up a lengthy injury right now. No we wouldn't, we've got Alan Smith with his 3 goals in his last 90 appearances. We'll be fine. Quick question: Martins or Smith up front? Are you being serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. So now he's as good as Drogba or Adebayor, it's just that he's playing with the wrong team mates? By the way, Adebayor's touch pisses all over Martins'. Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to say that Adebayor and Drogba "don't have the best touch or awareness" in an attempt to defend Martins. you have to be kidding me if we ask Ash now how good adebayors touch is, he would say absolutely shite, his touch is fucking awful as is drogbas who knees it everywhere. also last season adebayor was absolutely awful he missed plenty of sitters, coincedence that he was on the bench last season alot (apart from when henry was injured), like martins, i think not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 God some right doom mongers on here, we beat one of our rivals on Sunday then lose to a team full of quality youngesters playing at home with no pressure and a huge number of fans behind them and we're suddenly s***. f*** a duck, we win a game we're f****** immense, we lose one and we're relegation fodder. You've been posting on here long enough to know that the majority on here only exist at one end or the other of the Newcastle Online Delirium Spectrum. Tonight is the turn of "deliriously unhappy". The sensible few capable of thought beyond this base level usually get drowned out by the mongs. Martins is still s*** though. Better than Milner though. Yes of course he is Pie Glad you saw the light (another one for you) We gonna have that pint at the next match then or you not going again? Sounds like you're "offering him out" to me..... He's a hypocrite too? Its been a great night for him on the board Hypocrite? Mr Rants and Opinions who has acknowledged he has opinions on things he never sees? You might want to think that through See above point with reference to the pint. I'd happily meet you for a pint. I'll be in the trent beforehand next time i'm up. Come upstairs around 1 hour before kick off. Dark shaved head, fabulously good looking, you wont miss me. If I'm not busy at xmas I'll happily do so. You not going to Everton or Spurs? Of course. Which ground are you sitting in for those? The Velodrome? Chaban Delmas? Parc des Princes? I hear the view from there is outstanding. Perhaps you could give us an update on what happens using your bullshit magical bullshit goggles? I thought you wanted a pint? You've got the details, see you then. Bring your arsehole character with you too, sure you'll go down a storm. Taking the piss out of someone for living abroad is immense humour btw. The only reason you know those stadiums is because of the rugby too. Really? You just made all of that up. I have seen football matches at all as it happens. Never seen Newcastle at one though other than Monaco which I didnt mention - long time ago. Liverpool vs PSG (Parc - free ticket 1996 or 7 iirc in the cup) and PSG in Bordeaux and Marseille (free tickets). I have also lived abroad. However, I didn't feel the need to tell people I had seen something I hadn't. Basically, I never felt the need to bullshit. Stop wriggling. You made something up and look to have little integrity? Thats your problem. You buying? You never did say which ground you would be watching the next home game from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. So now he's as good as Drogba or Adebayor, it's just that he's playing with the wrong team mates? By the way, Adebayor's touch pisses all over Martins'. Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to say that Adebayor and Drogba "don't have the best touch or awareness" in an attempt to defend Martins. You really must be illiterate. Get a fuckin degree man! Can you read? Never said he was as good. Never said his touch was exactly the same as Adebayor's touch. However, what I did say is that they are all the same types of players and not players of the same ability. You obviously didn't see much of Adebayor's touch when he first came, and even now at times. Like I said we will talk about this again in a month or so. Hopefully you would have started taking reading lessons by then. Goodness me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's often shite. It's often fine. So it ranges from shite to "fine". You couldn't quite bring yourself to say good, could you. "It's often shite, and it's sometimes..........alright....ish." Your sole purpose in this thread seems to be to remind everybody how shite Martins is, despite the fact you couldn't provide a better alternative to start when Owen's not fit (which is quite a lot of the time tbf). I don't know why Martins is coming in for so much stick on a night we could have lost by eight. We were outplayed and unless Martins was alone playing in a 0-0-1 formation, I don't see why he is getting so much stick. It's not my fault that he's third choice striker at the club, is it? If he carries on missing open goals, I'd start Smith ahead of him up front though, but at present I'm assuming Smith is starting in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. So now he's as good as Drogba or Adebayor, it's just that he's playing with the wrong team mates? By the way, Adebayor's touch pisses all over Martins'. Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to say that Adebayor and Drogba "don't have the best touch or awareness" in an attempt to defend Martins. You really must be illiterate. Get a fuckin degree man! Can you read? I think he's got a fuckin degree man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Cliché ALERT I'd rather Martins was getting into the positions in the first place to miss them than not getting there at all, like Shola. He'll score some of them. I'd rather we got someone better in and people stopped trying to kid themselves that this lad is anything special. Seriously, there are people that think that this kid is a TOP talent. It's f****** ludicrous. Not having a go at you btw Dave, it just astounds me when I watch this kid play, the reputation he has with some of our fans. Were his 17 goals last seasona fluke then? Playing alongside Sibierski and Dyer? God gove me strength. You go and have a look over the goals he has scored for Newcastle and come back and tell me he can't finish. His situation reminds me of Adebayor's situation at Arsenal. All my friends who support Arsenal kept telling me he was crap and just like Shola and I kept telling them he just needed to play regularly and I would happily swap Shola for him anyday. They always laughed at me about it. This season they're wetting themselves over him the twats. Pisses me off something propa. I don't need to hear about the conversations you have with your mates at the back of the special bus tbh. Funny guy. I just don't like fickle people. Had either Drogba or Adebayor come to Newcastle you would have been the sort to run them out after their first season. Both similar players to Martins. Speed, athletic ability and power, but not the best touch or awareness. Surround them with the right players and play them often enough and they will be very productive though. Simple as that. We have no choice but to play Martins everygame now. Let's see what happens with him playing alongside Viduka regularly then. We'll talk about this again in aaround four weeks. So now he's as good as Drogba or Adebayor, it's just that he's playing with the wrong team mates? By the way, Adebayor's touch pisses all over Martins'. Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to say that Adebayor and Drogba "don't have the best touch or awareness" in an attempt to defend Martins. You really must be illiterate. Get a fuckin degree man! Can you read? Never said he was as good. Never said his touch was exactly the same as Adebayor's touch. However, what I did say is that they are all the same types of players and not players of the same ability. You obviously didn't see much of Adebayor's touch when he first came, and even now at times. Like I said we will talk about this again in a month or so. Hopefully you would have started taking reading lessons by then. Goodness me! Do you really want to play who's the most educated/qualified? I read what you wrote. You compared Martins' situation to that of two players who are in a different league to him. The comparison doesn't work because of that. Do you understand or do I need to knock something together on MSPaint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Milner has been poor so far this season. Not really no. Just last two games (arsenal one included). Seriously, he has been utter s****. Complete and utter s****. Pie, we know you don't like Milner, (who was our best player last season, or are we not allowed to mention that?), please don't feel the need to say he's s**** every single f****** time someone else mentions his name That's like being the hardest in the infants and open to debate at that tbh Same reply as before, he isn't good enough and needs shifting out. Or is he good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We'd be fuked if Martins picks up a lengthy injury right now. No we wouldn't, we've got Alan Smith with his 3 goals in his last 90 appearances. We'll be fine. Quick question: Martins or Smith up front? Are you being serious? I say Owen. He could always have tapped one in with his crutch tonight. WTF was Sam thinking of starting Martins tonight instead??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 We'd be fuked if Martins picks up a lengthy injury right now. No we wouldn't, we've got Alan Smith with his 3 goals in his last 90 appearances. We'll be fine. Quick question: Martins or Smith up front? Are you being serious? Gemmill is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's often shite. It's often fine. So it ranges from shite to "fine". You couldn't quite bring yourself to say good, could you. "It's often shite, and it's sometimes..........alright....ish." Your sole purpose in this thread seems to be to remind everybody how shite Martins is, despite the fact you couldn't provide a better alternative to start when Owen's not fit (which is quite a lot of the time tbf). I don't know why Martins is coming in for so much stick on a night we could have lost by eight. We were outplayed and unless Martins was alone playing in a 0-0-1 formation, I don't see why he is getting so much stick. It's not my fault that he's third choice striker at the club, is it? If he carries on missing open goals, I'd start Smith ahead of him up front though, but at present I'm assuming Smith is starting in midfield. How far do you have to go back for Smith to tally 17 goals in a season? In fact fuk that, lets just go back to 17 competitive goals ago. It would probably see Leeds back in the Champions League! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Milner is not shite, just average, he'll never be a top player, or even a very good one. has a terminal lack of pace and only average technical ability so it is not like he can compensate for it. he's the right-wing equivalent of steven taylor, only centre-halfs get better as they physically deteriorate, while, apart from the best, most wingers fade away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 In the end of the day, would rather go out now than later on. Will be hoping Arsenal win this (and the league) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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