Guest @ndy Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I would also like to see a higher line and quicker CB allowing us to play that way. Krul Janmat Mbemba ? Haidara Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Aarons Perez Mitrovic Only concern there is Sissoko passing ability, I think we will go with Colback sitting like this: Krul Janmat Mbemba ? Haidara Wijneldum Colback Sissoko De Jong Perez/Aarons Mitorvic De Jong is injured then play Perez behind. If Sissoko left the a proper winger would be great. I also want Shaquiri if possible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sissoko in central 2 has never worked, will never work, cannot work, and so on. His skillset doesn't fit that position and it makes the team a liability in both directions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jt91 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I think this could work well: Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo/Dummett Haidara Colback Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Cisse Mitrovic Can always switch it to a 4-3-3 and bring Perez, Cabella or Aarons on the wing if the team needs more width. Or bring on Tiote/Anita for Cisse to add another holding midfielder for more defensive solidity / and to close out games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Nah it has, alongside Anita a few times it's worked very well it just hasn't been tried very often. That game against Villa when Ben Arfa gave their fullback nightmares that he'll never recover from Sissoko played CM and played very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Not many formations actually fit this bunch of players, below could work, you could even swap Sissoko and De Jong around. Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo Haidara Anita Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez De Jong Mitrovic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Not sure playing with one lad upfront has worked superbly for us for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 With the players we currently have (bar Aarons) we'd have to play very centrally with the forward players cutting inside & having the fullbacks providing the width and therefore the crosses. Krul Mbemba Colo/? Janmaat Haidara Anita Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez De Jong Mitrovic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Looks more like a 4-3-3 to me. Still not sure either way though, there's a big selection/formation dilemma in midfield which is good and I don't like the idea of Perez being out wide, I'd prefer to see him either alongside or playing just behind the striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dont see how you can leave Cisse out. You're asking a lot of a 20 year old to take on both central defenders in his first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dont see how you can leave Cisse out. You're asking a lot of a 20 year old to take on both central defenders in his first season. That 20 year old has scored against top level competition in the CL, he's a lot more experienced than his age gives credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 He would NOT come here to play second fiddle.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dont see how you can leave Cisse out. You're asking a lot of a 20 year old to take on both central defenders in his first season. That 20 year old has scored against top level competition in the CL, he's a lot more experienced than his age gives credit for. Anderlecht played the majority of last season with a 4-2-3-1 formation with Mitrovic up top - It wouldn't be anything he wasn't used to and I think that de Jong and Ayoze floating about being pests in the space behind would give him ample support. I think Cisse is quite 1 dimensional and wouldn't work well up front as part of a two, he can't play off the shoulder as he doesn't have the pace and is shite at holding the ball up. Playing Cisse would mean someone would have to be shifted out wide. Impact sub for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Not sure playing with one lad upfront has worked superbly for us for a while. Because our midfield has stayed on the half way line, McClaren has repeatedly said about playing further forward and playing a passing game. Not sure how what hasn't worked in the past is relevant anyway, not like there are rules that apply to the club that can never change anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm surprised so many people are writing Sissoko off, he's shown he can do a job for us even under shite managers and I hope he gets a chance to show what he's capable of when hopefully playing in a better team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dont see how you can leave Cisse out. You're asking a lot of a 20 year old to take on both central defenders in his first season. That 20 year old has scored against top level competition in the CL, he's a lot more experienced than his age gives credit for. Anderlecht played the majority of last season with a 4-2-3-1 formation with Mitrovic up top - It wouldn't be anything he wasn't used to and I think that de Jong and Ayoze floating about being pests in the space behind would give him ample support. I think Cisse is quite 1 dimensional and wouldn't work well up front as part of a two, he can't play off the shoulder as he doesn't have the pace and is shite at holding the ball up. Playing Cisse would mean someone would have to be shifted out wide. Impact sub for me like I'm losing hope with Cisse. Scores goals but his link up and general combativeness is getting worse and worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Wonder how McClaren would've got on with HBA. Could've done with a fit HBA on the flank putting crosses in for Mitro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dont see how you can leave Cisse out. You're asking a lot of a 20 year old to take on both central defenders in his first season. That 20 year old has scored against top level competition in the CL, he's a lot more experienced than his age gives credit for. True but the context is a bit different also. New team for him, more pressure from a big transfer, teams entire style of play is being rebuilt right now, new players getting used to eachother. A lot has to click & work together. Another striker right next to you instantly takes some of that off & at the very least takes the attention of one of those Cb's. Just bored of watching one striker get isolated for us. Maybe Mclaren will sort that out, been the same story so far pre season though. Needs improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Oh same, i can't remember the last time i saw a Newcastle team which was actually a team and not 3 parts miles apart from each other (defense, midfield and attack) but it doesn't mean it can't change. Also i wouldn't be surprised if we started slowly tbh, i'm kind of expecting it all things considered but as long as there are signs of improvement in the early weeks i'm ok with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I've watched Mitrovic give as good as he got against Dortmund's defence. He'll be 'reet on his own up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I've watched Mitrovic give as good as he got against Dortmund's defence. He'll be 'reet on his own up top. Dortmund's defence is fucking shit tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Lot of people in for disappointment, judging from all the line ups recently posted without captain geordie jack in the starting 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I've watched Mitrovic give as good as he got against Dortmund's defence. He'll be 'reet on his own up top. Dortmund's defence is f***ing s*** tbf They give up a lot of space but in terms of physicality i wouldn't say it's easy for a young striker to play against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah i think we'll be slow starters as well, it will take time before the team looks fluid (if it ever will) as there seems to be big changes in style/tactics. Especially with many new players as well. Worth noting is that it can't get fucking worse As mentioned, if we move in the right direction, safe and slowly, then no complaints from me. I'll give it 45 minutes before i smash something if Colback's captain and runs around weak as hangover piss though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 My preferred 11 for next season with the current signings: Krul Janmaat Dummett Coloccini (Hopefully Mbemba or someone new) Haidara Wijnaldum Tiote Sissoko De Jong Perez/Aarons Mitrovic/Cisse --------------------------------------------- The biggest problem areas for me currently are the disastrous centre of defence and the centre of midfield. None of the current Central defenders are good enough. Dummett may develop and Coloccini is still useful occasionally, but it will be a problem unless there are at least two signings for that position. The midfield is interesting. All of the players (Abeid, Titoe, Colback, Anita, possibly Sissoko and De Jong) are all at least decent and have their own attributes, but I am not sure they fit together in any coherent way. Anita is the one I rate least, so ideally he would be sold. IMO, Colback is preferrable to Tiote and Abeid (he has the potential to be very good, but is likely to be sold before that could happen anyway), but there needs to be a more physical presence in midfield than Jack, who is lightweight. McClaren is decent manager imo, as well, so there is no reason for this side not to finish between 9th and 14th as is the aim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 My eleven would look something like this: Not Elliot Janmaat - Not Willyumsun - Not Williamson - Not Dummett Not Colback - Abeid Not Gouffran Not Gouffron Not Gouffrän Not Riviere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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