ChezGiven Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Marcello Lippi With Juventus F.C.: Italian League Championships 1994/95, 1996/97, 1997/98, 2001/02, 2002/03 Coppa Italia 1994/95 Runners up: 2001/02, 2003/04 Italian Supercups 1995/96, 1997/98, 2002/03, 2003/04 Runners up: 1998/99 1 European Cup 1995/96 Runners up: 1996/97, 1997/98, 2002/03 UEFA Cup Runners up: 1994/95 European Supercup 1995/1996 Intercontinental Cup 1996 With Internazionale F.C.: Coppa Italia Runners up: 1999/00 With the Italian national team: FIFA World Cup 2006 Fabio Capello Italian League Championships 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1995/96 (Milan); 2000/01 (Roma); 2004/05, 2005/06 (Juventus - though subsequently stripped of the title) La Liga: 1996/97; 2006/07 (Real Madrid) UEFA Champions League: 1994 European Super Cup: 1994 Just for info but cant vouch for accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Lippi flopped at Inter like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Capello's last 2 scudettos were after Lippi became national coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Capello's last 2 scudettos were after Lippi became national coach. Capello's still never flopped like a black man's cock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Trying to keep a Roma team devoid of any funds above water is what he was trying to do. The gap for Lippi is him doing nothing with an Inter team with so much talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Trying to keep a Roma team devoid of any funds above water is what he was trying to do. The gap for Lippi is him doing nothing with an Inter team with so much talent. He fell out with Totti and nearly got them relegated. Thats a gap in his CV. Anyway Lippi smokes which i think sends out the right sort of message to other international managers. We're english, we smoke tabs, drink beer and our coach is cool, we're going to mess you up and look stylish whilst doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Trying to keep a Roma team devoid of any funds above water is what he was trying to do. The gap for Lippi is him doing nothing with an Inter team with so much talent. He fell out with Totti and nearly got them relegated. Thats a gap in his CV. Anyway Lippi smokes which i think sends out the right sort of message to other international managers. We're english, we smoke tabs, drink beer and our coach is cool, we're going to mess you up and look stylish whilst doing it. Remember that banner when Gazza went to Lazio? "Gazza's boys, we are here, shake your women and drink beer." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Trying to keep a Roma team devoid of any funds above water is what he was trying to do. The gap for Lippi is him doing nothing with an Inter team with so much talent. He fell out with Totti and nearly got them relegated. Thats a gap in his CV. Anyway Lippi smokes which i think sends out the right sort of message to other international managers. We're english, we smoke tabs, drink beer and our coach is cool, we're going to mess you up and look stylish whilst doing it. Remember that banner when Gazza went to Lazio? "Gazza's boys, we are here, shake your women and drink beer." Vague recollection of that. Shaking women though, good idea tbh, check for a rattle to see if they've got a brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I think its a sad state of affairs that there is such a lack of top English managers in football at the moment where are are the Brain Clough's where are the Sir Bobby Robson's the prospect of appointing the current best English options of cockney wearler dealer Harry Redknapp or Sam Allardyce would simply not do do the country national team justice. I feel the real outstanding candidate was Jose Mourinho who tactically and in terms of man management would of taken this country national team to the next level we have really missed out there. The FA awnser to turn to Fabio Capello seems wise in terms of his outstanding club CV winning 8 titles in 15 seasons which is astoundingly rare at the highest level only Sir Alex Ferguson 9 titles in 15 season can boast better and we will have to see Mourinho in 10 years to compare however its interesting Capello has always consistently been beaten to the post for his own country national position. Ultimately we would all love a great English manager to be appointed but the current crop of English managers are simple not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ultimately we would all love a great English manager to be appointed Speak for yourself. Frankly I couldn't care less as long as they are good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 there's nowt in it in terms of major trophies, they've both won the Champion's league once, Capello has won one more scudetto (discounting the fixed one which would make it two), Lippi won the World Cup but Capello has two La Liga titles against the odds when up against amazing and succesful barca sides under rijkaard and robson. Lippi's teams might play slightly better football but has anyone won the european cup with the panache of Capello's 1994 side, which swept Romario's barca side aside at a canter, and that was without baresi and costacurta the bedrock of his side! Also lippi works more through charisma and motivation and that isn't neccessarily going to translate if he can't speak english. capello is more tactical and cerebral, though with him the concern is, can english players adapt to his style of possession football? it is the one thing we're terrible at and we'll have a manager who has used defensive, low-tempo football all throughout his career. it might be a clash of styles that goes tits up, or it might get the best out of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Lippi doing between 1998 and 2001 (appart from Coppa Italia runner up)? Exactly the same size gap in his C.V as the one you mention for Capello. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Finishing second in Serie A twice in three seasons with Roma is what he was doing... Yeah what a flop eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 To be honest both are good enough dont mind which one gets it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 To be honest both are good enough dont mind which one gets it End of thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 To be honest both are good enough dont mind which one gets it If anyone one of them wants it, he gets it. If both wants it, the one we get for the lowest money gets it, IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I reckon England should haggle Freddy Shepherd/Monty Python style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I hope the interests of both Lippi and Capello could sort of disprove that English players are not good enough. Admittedly England are a big football nation and the national coach vacancy is going to attract many managers. But for them (and Mourinho for half a week, and Van Gaal) to more or less pimp themselves it really does say something about English football and English players. You wouldn't get that much interests for French national coach vacancy or Germany national coach vacancy. I still prefer an English manager for England national team, because it is ENGLISH national team representing England country. Whereas Premiership, I am against any instituitional (the league, not individual club) quota and discrimination (positive or negative) against anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Capello also pimped himself out for the China national team job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Well at least its the first time in years ive been vaguely excited by anything to do with the england team. neither cappello or lippi will just pick player because of their name or club they play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Why wait for him to get the job before beginning the character assasination? England target is fan of fascist Exclusive by Martin Fricker and Graham Brough 12/12/2007 England manager-in-waiting Fabio Capello was branded a fascist sympathiser after praising Spanish dictator General Franco. The former Juventus and Real Madrid boss sparked outrage in Spain when he said the military leader made it a better place. The 61-year-old, expected to become England coach before Christmas, has also admitted voting for fascist and right-wing political parties in his native Italy. Capello made the comments last year as he started a second spell at Real Madrid - historically seen as the team of Franco's regime. He told Italian newspaper La Republica: "In Madrid I breathed a sparkling atmosphere, the air of a country in Europe making the greatest progress. When I returned to Italy it seemed I had taken two steps back. "Spain in two words? Latin warmth and creativity regulated by a rigorous order. The order which comes from Franco." When reminded that Franco was a dictator, Capello replied: "But he left a legacy of order. In Spain everything works well, there is education, cleanliness, respect. We should follow their example." Francisco Franco led a military uprising in 1936 that sparked the Spanish Civil War and ushered in nearly 40 years of dictatorship. After coming to power he wiped out his enemies, taking 200,000 lives. He died in 1975, at the age of 82. Furious Spanish Euro MP Raul Romeva lodged a motion in the European Parliament seeking its view on Capello's comments. He accused Capello of "eulogising" Franco, who died in 1975, and denounced any comments hinting at a "deplorable apology for Fascism". Spanish newspaper El Pais also reacted furiously. Its editorial read: "Capello has committed a deplorable act in support of Fascism." Another Spanish paper, Sport, said: "Capello is either very ignorant or has a view of social order which is quite dangerous." Capello later tried to distance himself from the remarks. He said: "I just wanted to say that Spain are better than Italy in some fields and tried to give a historical explanation to it. "I have never dreamed of praising dictatorships. My father was in a Nazi concentration camp." He later added: "Everyone leaves something good behind." But Capello has also admitted to veering to the far right in his voting in Italy. He began to follow politics in 1968 and after starting off voting for the Italian socialist party, he drifted further to the right, eventually switching to extreme right parties Lega Nord and Forza Italia. Anti-racism groups have accused Lega Nord of "openly embracing racist and fascist" attitudes. Capello has also made no secret of his strong nationalist beliefs. When he scored for Italy at Wembley in 1973, he dedicated it to Italian immigrants he said were treated like "waiters" by the British. Capello, who is expected to have talks with FA chief Brian Barwick this week, is also a devout Catholic. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/12/england-target-is-fan-of-fascist-89520-20237389/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Oh FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Thats pretty funny reading. probably written by the same spaz that endorsed englands steve mcclaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ultimately we would all love a great English manager to be appointed Speak for yourself. Frankly I couldn't care less as long as they are good enough. Agreed, nationality doesn't come into it as far as I'm concerned, so long as they're competent enough to do a decent job it doesn't matter. I suppose an Englishman may have more passion for the job but at the end of the day it's about getting results on a football field and a good manager will strive to do that wherever they are. I'd personally be happy with either Capello or Lippi. Both have proven they can win things at the highest level and both are a huge jump in class in comparison to McClaren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Since Lippi led Napoli to the UEFA cup in 93, there isnt a gap in the man's CV. What was Lippi doing between 1998 and 2001 (appart from Coppa Italia runner up)? Exactly the same size gap in his C.V as the one you mention for Capello. What was Capello doing between 2001 and 2004? Flopping like an elephant's dong would be an understatement. Finishing second in Serie A twice in three seasons with Roma is what he was doing... Yeah what a flop eh? Which bit of elephant's dong didnt you understand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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