Kevin Keegan

[loki679]

KK is one of those people who could never outstay his welcome. I wish we could bottle his ambition and attitude to give to our future managers. Or even just Ashley to override his cunt genes.

 

This is the guy who walked out on the club twice, isn't it?

 

There were many different aspects to the Keegan persona, not all positive.

 

Never known one person to be so wrong about everything

[Cronky]

KK is one of those people who could never outstay his welcome. I wish we could bottle his ambition and attitude to give to our future managers. Or even just Ashley to override his cunt genes.

 

This is the guy who walked out on the club twice, isn't it?

 

There were many different aspects to the Keegan persona, not all positive.

 

Never known one person to be so wrong about everything

 

Ooh. Harsh.

[Yorkie]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

[Karjala]

Did KK ever lose a derby?

[Fenham Mag]

Did KK ever lose a derby?

 

Of course he didn't

[ponsaelius]

Cronky is either a moron or a WUM, that much is blatantly clear.

[Cronky]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

[Disco]

If only he'd stuck around and ripped the piss out of the fans being the owners patsy like your man Pardew ey?

[gallowgate_pete]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

Oh, do fuck off...

[loki679]

Been some proper special needs stuff posted today.

[Elliottman]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

 

Wow.

 

Go watch a couple of Keegan interviews.

[Guest John Carvery]

Keegan had his moments of behaving like a spoilt 3 year old but we wouldn't be the club we are today without him, regardless of what people think of us at the moment.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Being principled is now regarded as being a spoilt child?

[Guest John Carvery]

Being principled is now regarded as being a spoilt child?

 

You can call it what you like. His tantrums were embarrassing at times.

[Guest Dom77]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

That's the first realistic view of Keegan I've read from a Newcastle fan. 

 

Keegan was money motivated from the beginning of his career, not that it's a bad thing, but sometimes things have to be put in perspective.  Keegan argued his wages at the beginning of his career at Liverpool and left because he was offered a whole lot more from Hamburg.  In between all that he was a great player for us, talked all about the love he had for the club and fans, then said how he wanted a 'new'challenge and went on his merry way. 

 

We replaced him of course with arguably our best place ever, and it was very easy, within a few weeks, to say who's Keegan?  He would still be in most fans top 20 Liverpool players of all time but I can't honestly say I've ever seen real loyalty from him anywhere.  Even when he took the Newcastle job under Ashley his football circus was in serious trouble financially.

[Guest John Carvery]

 

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

That's the first realistic view of Keegan I've read from a Newcastle fan. 

 

Keegan was money motivated from the beginning of his career, not that it's a bad thing, but sometimes things have to be put in perspective.  Keegan argued his wages at the beginning of his career at Liverpool and left because he was offered a whole lot more from Hamburg.  In between all that he was a great player for us, talked all about the love he had for the club and fans, then said how he wanted a 'new'challenge and went on his merry way. 

 

We replaced him of course with arguably our best place ever, and it was very easy, within a few weeks, to say who's Keegan?  He would still be in most fans top 20 Liverpool players of all time but I can't honestly say I've ever seen real loyalty from him anywhere.  Even when he took the Newcastle job under Ashley his football circus was in serious trouble financially.

 

:anguish:   utter rubbish. What he did at Liverpool is completely irrelevant to us, horrible post

 

Never mind it's only Liverpool.

[Jack Flash]

All the people who get on Keegan's back for no real reason will be the same ones who were on SBR's back all his life then treated him like a saint when the inevitable happened. The revisionism will be infuriating to watch. He'll be King Kev again in no time as we politely applaud in the 7th minute while the club pump out every manner of tat with his face on it after maliciously ignoring him since he left.

 

The inquests as to why Kevin quit carried on endlessly. Surprisingly, so did the arguments about whether he had been good for the club. There were some people who felt he had not been totally successful because he had spent an incredible amount of money and still had not brought a major trophy to St James' Park.

 

His detractors reckoned his style of play was too cavalier and Newcastle blew the chance of winning the league by being too reckless. They claimed he didn't have the bottle to see the job through when the going got tough.

 

To all of those people I say this. Ask any of the Newcastle supporters who lived through Keegan's five years here whether they enjoyed it. Ask them whether they preferred the fabulous entertainment and the quality football he brought to the club or the years in the doldrums before he arrived. They were in danger of dropping into the old Third Division when he came and when he left they were one of the biggest clubs in the world.

 

There was a gap of almost 14 years from the day I saw him score with a diving header against QPR to the day I joined up with him at Newcastle. It was a long wait and even though I only played for him for five months, it was well worth it. I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

[Mattoon]

Wow, just wow! Did you even witness the Keegan years first hand? The guy transformed us from the brink of obscurity to the top end of the highest table. Listen to how he talks about us and tell me he only cared for money.

 

There is some serious revisionism going on here and it almost sounds like a club statement.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

KK money orientated? He looked after himself career wise of course, who wouldn't, but he was no mercenary. When he first joined us as a player he turned down several more lucrative offers from elsewhere. Part of his contract was that he would get a percentage of any increase in gate revenue as a result of his signing. He said he was so embarrassed at how much extra that made him over others he told the club to keep it, to reinvest in the schoolboy side of the club as it were back then. There was no academy.

 

When he returned as manager the club couldn't afford Terry Mac's wages so KK paid his wages and he didn't even ask the club for it back. He also bought all the youngsters some new boots and kit. He was a millionaire when he joined us and he used a good chunk of his wealth to help the club.

 

He offered SJH every single penny he had invested into NUFC back to him if we went down, with KK in effect taking control of the club as owner.

 

If he was such a mercenary, or rather money orientated he would have seen out that multi million pound 3.5 year contract under Ashley, especially given his own business was failing. A business btw that KK invested minimally in and even though it was losing money, KK was still and still is a wealthy man. The man was a great footballer and a very good businessman too.

 

 

Yes he had his faults but everything KK did was for the good of the club, his team, the players and fans. His first threat of quitting was because he was promised funds and when they weren't forthcoming he called their bluff and won. That act helped save this club and showed SJH et al that second best wasn't acceptable. KK demanded more and if they couldn't work to his ways, he wasn't going to hang around and waste people's time.

 

That's why he quit England. Why kid people, keep getting paid etc. for being unable to do a good enough job?

 

When he quit for real first time around as manager, he didn't feel he could manage the club in the way he wanted to and believed should be ran. He couldn't asnwer to suits telling him what to do etc. so he resigned. But in reality he left because he was spent, emotionally and mentally. He had literally dragged this club into the 21st century off his own enthusiasm, esteem and motivation. It took its toll.

 

Second time around he revealed Ashley and co as the evil overlords that they are. Had he Hungarians taking their money and basically being their patsy he would have been just as bad, but KK is an honourable man, a decent man, cut from the same cloth as Sir Bobby and for that we should all be grateful. KK is the most genuine, honest and most passionate man in football, or rather was. Basically the antithesis of modern football.

 

If more were like him, the game would be something special and something worthy of our adulation, money, time, emotion, loyalty and passion. As things stand it is worthy of nothing but contempt. It's a corrupt, money mad, egotistical sport full of mercenaries.

 

Everything KK isn't.

 

Carver once slagged Ashley and co, but the minute he is offered some coin he bends over to be screwed, same with Beardsley. Men like KK and Sheerer true NUFC legends, know better.

 

[NJS]

Dissing KK is the only real crime of blasphemy on the planet and there's a few in this thread I'd happily see hanged.

[Disco]

If you can't enjoy Kevin Keegan as a Newcastle fan I suspect you can't enjoy anything in life.

[cp40]

If you can't enjoy Kevin Keegan as a Newcastle fan I suspect you can't enjoy anything in life.

 

 

[Tsunami]

When did he score a diving header against QPR?

[Mick]

Do you resent Keegan for walking out?

 

No, not in itself. I resent the bullshit that's come in the wake of each walkout.

 

In the first case, he walked when the transfer money ran out. In the second case, he walked when he realised that he wasn't going to change the owner's policy and get him to spend - the Gonzalez issue gave him the opportunity to go with his nose clean.

 

And of course, with England he was a failure because there's no opportunity to spend money. You have to work with what you have.

 

Keegan will always have a special place in the club's history, because he was the catalyst for changing the club's thinking from small club to big club. Unfortunately, he didn't have the all-round ability to capitalise on the opportunity that - in fairness - he largely created for himself by hauling the club's ownership in the direction that he wanted.

 

 

You're weird.

[Bishops Finger]

KK money orientated? He looked after himself career wise of course, who wouldn't, but he was no mercenary. When he first joined us as a player he turned down several more lucrative offers from elsewhere. Part of his contract was that he would get a percentage of any increase in gate revenue as a result of his signing. He said he was so embarrassed at how much extra that made him over others he told the club to keep it, to reinvest in the schoolboy side of the club as it were back then. There was no academy.

 

When he returned as manager the club couldn't afford Terry Mac's wages so KK paid his wages and he didn't even ask the club for it back. He also bought all the youngsters some new boots and kit. He was a millionaire when he joined us and he used a good chunk of his wealth to help the club.

 

He offered SJH every single penny he had invested into NUFC back to him if we went down, with KK in effect taking control of the club as owner.

 

If he was such a mercenary, or rather money orientated he would have seen out that multi million pound 3.5 year contract under Ashley, especially given his own business was failing. A business btw that KK invested minimally in and even though it was losing money, KK was still and still is a wealthy man. The man was a great footballer and a very good businessman too.

 

 

Yes he had his faults but everything KK did was for the good of the club, his team, the players and fans. His first threat of quitting was because he was promised funds and when they weren't forthcoming he called their bluff and won. That act helped save this club and showed SJH et al that second best wasn't acceptable. KK demanded more and if they couldn't work to his ways, he wasn't going to hang around and waste people's time.

 

That's why he quit England. Why kid people, keep getting paid etc. for being unable to do a good enough job?

 

When he quit for real first time around as manager, he didn't feel he could manage the club in the way he wanted to and believed should be ran. He couldn't asnwer to suits telling him what to do etc. so he resigned. But in reality he left because he was spent, emotionally and mentally. He had literally dragged this club into the 21st century off his own enthusiasm, esteem and motivation. It took its toll.

 

Second time around he revealed Ashley and co as the evil overlords that they are. Had he Hungarians taking their money and basically being their patsy he would have been just as bad, but KK is an honourable man, a decent man, cut from the same cloth as Sir Bobby and for that we should all be grateful. KK is the most genuine, honest and most passionate man in football, or rather was. Basically the antithesis of modern football.

 

If more were like him, the game would be something special and something worthy of our adulation, money, time, emotion, loyalty and passion. As things stand it is worthy of nothing but contempt. It's a corrupt, money mad, egotistical sport full of mercenaries.

 

Everything KK isn't.

 

Carver once slagged Ashley and co, but the minute he is offered some coin he bends over to be screwed, same with Beardsley. Men like KK and Sheerer true NUFC legends, know better.

 

Excellent post. Totally agree.