Guest optimistic nit Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 fucks sake man. anyone would think we had a queue of world class players lined up outside SJP begging to sign. we are a mid table side, who aren't in europe, who have a history of hiring and firing managers, we're based in a small city in the north east of england, we're trying to rebuild the club finances after years of mismanagement. and we've proven time and time again that throwing money at "big name signings" hasn't led to success. we have just pissed transfer fees and massive wages up the wall. it's all about building a decent sized squad, putting a solid team together and doing it without bankrupting the club. get a grip on reality and get used to the idea ! you've only got to look at what sven did at citeh to see how we should be operating imo. citeh were worse off than we are now this time last year, but look at the buys they made, and i'd swap this squad for that in a flash. we shouldn't settle for mediocrity or use the fact that we are a mid table club as an excuse. we can sign quality if we know where to look, and if we start lowering our expectations that much then it will be dangerous for our long term ambitions. We should expect to sign players better than Diane, but if he signs we should support him, something we haven't done in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 both Pompey and Spurs have won cups this year. what have we won ? f*** all lad. and we have generally been considered the laughing stock of the league for most of 07/08. what a load of rubbish. Lad do you associate with any non-NUFC fans ? they think we are a self important joke of a club who stumble from crisis to crisis and play it all out in full glare of the media. that's the reality sunshine. I associate with lots of non-NUFC fans sunshine. In fact, only 1 NUFC fan is in my particular workplace. Nobody actually gives a toss about people going to brothels, in fact they were all very envious of us when we played in the Champions League, europe, and 2 FA Cup Finals. Supporters of the successful clubs ie like manu, will tell you such things don't matter too much to them, as in they weren't bothered when Edwards was caught kerb crawling. Of course, they just love the Glaziers. Thats the reality sunshine. once again you missed the point lad. if edwards wanted to dip a hooker then fair dues. if fred and doug want to see some blart in a brothel then fair dues. but did edwards get caught in the back seat of his car with a hooker and a journo mouthing off and laughing about daft people who buy manc shirts get ripped off and going on about all the lasses in manchester being mingers. ? Did this story get then get splashed all over to the tabloids. No. thought it didn't. you miss the point lad. "splashing all over the tabloids" doesn't really matter. If YOU are "embarrassed" its your choice. I was a lot more embarrassed when we lost to Hereford etc and sold all our best players, played in front of 20000 fans and spent years in the 2nd division. How did we know about Edwards ? did a little birdie come and tell us ? Do you believe everything you read in tabloids ie the current comments by Keegan, or just what suits you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 both Pompey and Spurs have won cups this year. what have we won ? f*** all lad. and we have generally been considered the laughing stock of the league for most of 07/08. what a load of rubbish. Lad do you associate with any non-NUFC fans ? they think we are a self important joke of a club who stumble from crisis to crisis and play it all out in full glare of the media. that's the reality sunshine. I associate with lots of non-NUFC fans sunshine. In fact, only 1 NUFC fan is in my particular workplace. Nobody actually gives a toss about people going to brothels, in fact they were all very envious of us when we played in the Champions League, europe, and 2 FA Cup Finals. Supporters of the successful clubs ie like manu, will tell you such things don't matter too much to them, as in they weren't bothered when Edwards was caught kerb crawling. Of course, they just love the Glaziers. Thats the reality sunshine. They actually don't. This will be funny, but the reason they don't love the Glazers is because of the debt Classic stuff, I know. wake up, you're better than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 fucks sake man. anyone would think we had a queue of world class players lined up outside SJP begging to sign. we are a mid table side, who aren't in europe, who have a history of hiring and firing managers, we're based in a small city in the north east of england, we're trying to rebuild the club finances after years of mismanagement. and we've proven time and time again that throwing money at "big name signings" hasn't led to success. we have just pissed transfer fees and massive wages up the wall. it's all about building a decent sized squad, putting a solid team together and doing it without bankrupting the club. get a grip on reality and get used to the idea ! you've only got to look at what sven did at citeh to see how we should be operating imo. citeh were worse off than we are now this time last year, but look at the buys they made, and i'd swap this squad for that in a flash. we shouldn't settle for mediocrity or use the fact that we are a mid table club as an excuse. we can sign quality if we know where to look, and if we start lowering our expectations that much then it will be dangerous for our long term ambitions. We should expect to sign players better than Diane, but if he signs we should support him, something we haven't done in the past. Genuine question.. Have you seen Diane play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 i read the translation as saying......nufc sent an african lemon to diane courts. who is she? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 fucks sake man. anyone would think we had a queue of world class players lined up outside SJP begging to sign. we are a mid table side, who aren't in europe, who have a history of hiring and firing managers, we're based in a small city in the north east of england, we're trying to rebuild the club finances after years of mismanagement. and we've proven time and time again that throwing money at "big name signings" hasn't led to success. we have just pissed transfer fees and massive wages up the wall. it's all about building a decent sized squad, putting a solid team together and doing it without bankrupting the club. get a grip on reality and get used to the idea ! names ? And please tell us which teams have qualfied more for europe than us, that HAVEN'T bought these "big name signings" Lad. PS, you seem oblivious to the fact that we are the 3rd best supported club in the country, if you think that smaller clubs than us can buy "bigger name players" I'll start you off with luque, kluivert, owen (until this season), boumsong, emre and duff. arsenal have qualified for europe more often than us without big name signings. you show me a club who has spent as much as us since 1992 but still not won anything. Leeds maybe, and look where they are..... the "size" of a club is NOT determined by the amount of people who support them. I'll start you off with Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Speed, Dyer, Bellamy, Ferguson, Robert, Albert, Hamman, Batty, Woodgate, and finish off with the fact that only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us, because of these signings ? Unless of course you think we should have bought players such as Chopra, kilbane, Arca, Lawrence - or Heard, Reilly, Pingel, Bogie, Gourlay, Robertson, Stimson, Dillon......... great days, all bargain buys the lot of them. Quite amazing that any Newcastle supporter is unhappy with signing a top footballer like Michael Owen, they must have been over the moon when we bought Rob McDonald. You need to wise up lad, you're living in cloud cuckoo land, although I'm not surprised that - just like the example of pompey - you're using the old tried and trusted example of Leeds to suggest that everybody who spends a lot of money ends up like Leeds Funny that one we signed half those players you mention in the mid 90's ! when we were a team on the up, that challenged for the league and were in europe. the other half we signed when we were still considered a decent side and were in cup finals and or europe. what have we got to offer a player these days. No top half finishes, no cup finals, no european football, a series of hired and fired managers and no trophies. we have a 55,000 capacity stadium and that about it ! the points you made have simply justified my initial argument and you've tied yourself in knots like a little kitten with a ball of wool. we are no longer a "big side", so deal with it lad ! ha ha ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 They love Fergie. They love the trophies. No doubt. But they sure as hell don't love the prices that they're paying for the tickets and the fact that they [the fans] are being made to pay £50m in interest payments each year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 it's too hard to work out precisely when we became the laughing stock ! I suspect it was around the time Dougy and Fred got stung in that brothel...... And people laughed at YOU mackems.gif oh dear. Oh for the good old days of fine upstanding gentlemen running the club, [for the younger generation, think of Bob Murray], and we spent years selling our best players, ritual humiliation in the FA Cup to the likes of Hereford and Exeter, and nobody laughed at us bluelaugh.gif you've missed the point sonny jim. in the mid to late 90's we were "everyones second club" and could compete with the best of europe in the transfer market. now we are a mid table joke side who people love to hate. no-one was talking about what went on in the 70's or 80's. it wasn't and isn't relevant to the current discussion. load of bollocks. We are nothing of the sort. In fact, Chelsea were the "joke " club last week. Some joke. Get real. Do you actually talk with real people, or just go by what you see on football message boards. Sunshine. Or is it that you don't understand footballing banter between supporters . Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 fucks sake man. anyone would think we had a queue of world class players lined up outside SJP begging to sign. we are a mid table side, who aren't in europe, who have a history of hiring and firing managers, we're based in a small city in the north east of england, we're trying to rebuild the club finances after years of mismanagement. and we've proven time and time again that throwing money at "big name signings" hasn't led to success. we have just pissed transfer fees and massive wages up the wall. it's all about building a decent sized squad, putting a solid team together and doing it without bankrupting the club. get a grip on reality and get used to the idea ! names ? And please tell us which teams have qualfied more for europe than us, that HAVEN'T bought these "big name signings" Lad. PS, you seem oblivious to the fact that we are the 3rd best supported club in the country, if you think that smaller clubs than us can buy "bigger name players" I'll start you off with luque, kluivert, owen (until this season), boumsong, emre and duff. arsenal have qualified for europe more often than us without big name signings. you show me a club who has spent as much as us since 1992 but still not won anything. Leeds maybe, and look where they are..... the "size" of a club is NOT determined by the amount of people who support them. I'll start you off with Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Speed, Dyer, Bellamy, Ferguson, Robert, Albert, Hamman, Batty, Woodgate, and finish off with the fact that only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us, because of these signings ? Unless of course you think we should have bought players such as Chopra, kilbane, Arca, Lawrence - or Heard, Reilly, Pingel, Bogie, Gourlay, Robertson, Stimson, Dillon......... great days, all bargain buys the lot of them. Quite amazing that any Newcastle supporter is unhappy with signing a top footballer like Michael Owen, they must have been over the moon when we bought Rob McDonald. You need to wise up lad, you're living in cloud cuckoo land, although I'm not surprised that - just like the example of pompey - you're using the old tried and trusted example of Leeds to suggest that everybody who spends a lot of money ends up like Leeds Funny that one we signed half those players you mention in the mid 90's ! when we were a team on the up, that challenged for the league and were in europe. the other half we signed when we were still considered a decent side and were in cup finals and or europe. what have we got to offer a player these days. No top half finishes, no cup finals, no european football, a series of hired and fired managers and no trophies. we have a 55,000 capacity stadium and that about it ! the points you made have simply justified my initial argument and you've tied yourself in knots like a little kitten with a ball of wool. we are no longer a "big side", so deal with it lad ! ha ha ! oh well, have it your way. Those crowds will soon dip back to 20,000 then as we are so shite, just like all the other small clubs. Lad. All the clubs that don't reach Cup Finals or play in europe are a joke then ? Good job we weren't relegated or owt eh You don't understand much do you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 They love Fergie. They love the trophies. No doubt. But they sure as hell don't love the prices that they're paying for the tickets and the fact that they [the fans] are being made to pay £50m in interest payments each year. try chelsea and arsenal for season ticket prices. cheapest at stamford bridge is £1100 iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I live in reality lad. You are living in the past. either about our 1994 - 2003 "golden era" or the dark days of the 70's and 80's. you appear to have absolutely no grasp of the here and now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 What I'm saying is that the new board has to at least match the ambition of the old board. Let's hope we don't match the "ambition" of Shepherd when he failed to provide any transfer cash at all the summer before a crucial CL qualifier and the point where, after all of Sir Bobby's good work, we just might have established ourselves as one of the Big Four. Ambition? mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I live in reality lad. You are living in the past. either about our 1994 - 2003 "golden era" or the dark days of the 70's and 80's. you appear to have absolutely no grasp of the here and now. first hand experience of all these eras lad. Do you ? Just call it a wider perspective if you don't. That's reality. Sunshine. I see you don't dispute now that going to a brothel is OK, despite your earlier comments. Nor the european qualifications for the quality players. Are you out of your depth yet ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 fucks sake man. anyone would think we had a queue of world class players lined up outside SJP begging to sign. we are a mid table side, who aren't in europe, who have a history of hiring and firing managers, we're based in a small city in the north east of england, we're trying to rebuild the club finances after years of mismanagement. and we've proven time and time again that throwing money at "big name signings" hasn't led to success. we have just pissed transfer fees and massive wages up the wall. it's all about building a decent sized squad, putting a solid team together and doing it without bankrupting the club. get a grip on reality and get used to the idea ! you've only got to look at what sven did at citeh to see how we should be operating imo. citeh were worse off than we are now this time last year, but look at the buys they made, and i'd swap this squad for that in a flash. we shouldn't settle for mediocrity or use the fact that we are a mid table club as an excuse. we can sign quality if we know where to look, and if we start lowering our expectations that much then it will be dangerous for our long term ambitions. We should expect to sign players better than Diane, but if he signs we should support him, something we haven't done in the past. Genuine question.. Have you seen Diane play? Nope. but then i've never seen ronaldinho play either. i'm making my judgement based on his reputation, the reports from people who have seen him play, and the fact he's 25 now and is hardly making waves. i get the feeling that keegan is part of the reason people are not dissapointed in this transfer, its seems almost blind faith in some people, that he will sign the right players and imrpove them. if allardyce was signing diane i think it'd be less well recieved. That said because i haven't seen him (i've seen psg play a couple of times, but didn't notice him that much) i'm not going to write him off until i have seen him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I love how you always feel you must use the exact same names/insults in your replies NE5. You just add them in. Sunshine. It's fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 What I'm saying is that the new board has to at least match the ambition of the old board. Let's hope we don't match the "ambition" of Shepherd when he failed to provide any transfer cash at all the summer before a crucial CL qualifier and the point where, after all of Sir Bobby's good work, we just might have established ourselves as one of the Big Four. Ambition? mackems.gif you mean Bobby Robsons good work, supported by Shepherd [you forgot the Halls again Ozzie lad] ....... hope your not criticising for this "overspending" now , having criticised for not releasing cash that wasn't there. Apart from a small amount like 9m for Woodgate though ........ Still, don't let facts get in the way of your opinion after all this time now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I love how you always feel you must use the exact same names/insults in your replies NE5. You just add them in. Sunshine. It's fun. if I insulted him you'd ban me Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 As if having the third biggest stadium in the country counts for anything. That's a special one the management keeps in reserve for swaying those difficult players. "Well we can't offer you Europe or the London nightlife. But what would you say to the third largest stadium in the country?" *slides contract across table, produces pen* you don't understand what this tells you about a player do you, to play for a club with the 3rd largest support in the country ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'll start you off with Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Speed, Dyer, Bellamy, Ferguson, Robert, Albert, Hamman, Batty, Woodgate, and finish off with the fact that only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us, because of these signings ? Unless of course you think we should have bought players such as Chopra, kilbane, Arca, Lawrence - or Heard, Reilly, Pingel, Bogie, Gourlay, Robertson, Stimson, Dillon......... great days, all bargain buys the lot of them. Quite amazing that any Newcastle supporter is unhappy with signing a top footballer like Michael Owen, they must have been over the moon when we bought Rob McDonald. You need to wise up lad, you're living in cloud cuckoo land, although I'm not surprised that - just like the example of pompey - you're using the old tried and trusted example of Leeds to suggest that everybody who spends a lot of money ends up like Leeds Funny that one Ginola £2,500,000 transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'll start you off with Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Speed, Dyer, Bellamy, Ferguson, Robert, Albert, Hamman, Batty, Woodgate, and finish off with the fact that only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us, because of these signings ? Unless of course you think we should have bought players such as Chopra, kilbane, Arca, Lawrence - or Heard, Reilly, Pingel, Bogie, Gourlay, Robertson, Stimson, Dillon......... great days, all bargain buys the lot of them. Quite amazing that any Newcastle supporter is unhappy with signing a top footballer like Michael Owen, they must have been over the moon when we bought Rob McDonald. You need to wise up lad, you're living in cloud cuckoo land, although I'm not surprised that - just like the example of pompey - you're using the old tried and trusted example of Leeds to suggest that everybody who spends a lot of money ends up like Leeds Funny that one Ginola £2,500,000 transfer fee. Or Hamman who fucked off to a supposedly smaller club than us after one season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Or Hamman who f***ed off to a supposedly smaller club than us after one season We should be breaking records in the way Brian Clough did, what would we give to watch players of the calibre of Ian Wallace, Peter (I think) Ward, Justin Fashanu, that's the way I want to see us go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Man City were pretty shite at the tail end of the season. I wouldn't want to start splashing the cash like them. They bought some right duds this season. Petrov was excellent all season, Elano was top quality 1st half of the season the other good players were Dunne, Johnson, Hart and Onhou (Sp?) who were already there. I want to see us spend, but it hasn't brought us much success in the past , so being cautious is fine by me as long as we bring the right players in. I don't know enough about Diane to make a judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'll comment on this transfer window when it's closed, not after our first signing and it doesn't matter if we splash £30,000,000 or £30 on our first player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Or Hamman who f***ed off to a supposedly smaller club than us after one season We should be breaking records in the way Brian Clough did, what would we give to watch players of the calibre of Ian Wallace, Peter (I think) Ward, Justin Fashanu, that's the way I want to see us go. You have to spend big, like Man United, Chelsea etc do Veron Taibi Forlan Shevchenko Obi Mikel not scrape round picking up the Robert Lee, John Beresford, Barry Venison bargain basement type players. Spending £10m per signing guarantees success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 What I'm saying is that the new board has to at least match the ambition of the old board. Let's hope we don't match the "ambition" of Shepherd when he failed to provide any transfer cash at all the summer before a crucial CL qualifier and the point where, after all of Sir Bobby's good work, we just might have established ourselves as one of the Big Four. Ambition? mackems.gif you mean Bobby Robsons good work, supported by Shepherd [you forgot the Halls again Ozzie lad] ....... hope your not criticising for this "overspending" now , having criticised for not releasing cash that wasn't there. Apart from a small amount like 9m for Woodgate though ........ Still, don't let facts get in the way of your opinion after all this time now Thanks for demonstrating that you are laughably short of answers for that particular point. Shepherd's biggest fuck-up, our last shot at the CL places before the drawbridge was pulled up, and you are the prize hypocrite who ineptly glosses over it while bleating about "ambition". And you wonder why no one takes you seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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