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Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago

 

You couldn't read a post two up ?

 

Dont be nasty

 

Nasty ? Righto  :pokerface:

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Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago.

 

So he has been found not to have raped her...but she walks away free and gets to live her life.

Were as no matter what mud sticks and people will alway judge him now.

 

Fair enough he is a knob but how many people are being accused only to be found innocent.

Its sick that a woman can have sex feel bad then just accuse somone of rape.

 

Anonymity is counter-productive, unfair and discriminatory.

 

What has happened is that people couldn't be sure if he raped her. Not really the same is it as being found not to have raped her?

 

You don't seem to have Judged him despite the accusation. Go figure.

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Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago.

 

So he has been found not to have raped her...but she walks away free and gets to live her life.

Were as no matter what mud sticks and people will alway judge him now.

 

Fair enough he is a knob but how many people are being accused only to be found innocent.

Its sick that a woman can have sex feel bad then just accuse somone of rape.

 

Anonymity is counter-productive, unfair and discriminatory.

 

What has happened is that people couldn't be sure if he raped her. Not really the same is it as being found not to have raped her?

 

You don't seem to have Judged him despite the accusation. Go figure.

 

Did you follow the case or just saying that becasue of the result?

 

After reading the evidence to me it seemed obvious he did not rape her.

He had made it obvious to her he wanted to have sex with her and she still kept hanging around him.

I know what you are saying but to me her evidence was very flawed.

 

Her defence was that she was drunk and could not consent.

Sorry but you don’t go out clubbing with someone then they get a taxi with you to a hotel and you don’t know what is going on.

 

If we use that defence most the sex happening in Newcastle on a weekend is rape.

All this shit about I was to drunk is seriously BS.

I have used the  I was drunk excuse before. But no matter how drunk I was if some guy said right we are going to a hotel lets go I would never just go with him and have sex.

 

As for the not judging him because he has been accused of rape…to be fair most people that read the papers are stupid and think no smoke without fire.

 

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Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago.

 

So he has been found not to have raped her...but she walks away free and gets to live her life.

Were as no matter what mud sticks and people will alway judge him now.

 

Fair enough he is a knob but how many people are being accused only to be found innocent.

Its sick that a woman can have sex feel bad then just accuse somone of rape.

 

Anonymity is counter-productive, unfair and discriminatory.

 

What has happened is that people couldn't be sure if he raped her. Not really the same is it as being found not to have raped her?

 

You don't seem to have Judged him despite the accusation. Go figure.

 

Did you follow the case or just saying that becasue of the result?

 

After reading the evidence to me it seemed obvious he did not rape her.

He had made it obvious to her he wanted to have sex with her and she still kept hanging around him.

I know what you are saying but to me her evidence was very flawed.

 

Her defence was that she was drunk and could not consent.

Sorry but you don’t go out clubbing with someone then they get a taxi with you to a hotel and you don’t know what is going on.

 

If we use that defence most the sex happening in Newcastle on a weekend is rape.

All this s*** about I was to drunk is seriously BS.

I have used the  I was drunk excuse before. But no matter how drunk I was if some guy said right we are going to a hotel lets go I would never just go with him and have sex.

 

As for the not judging him because he has been accused of rape…to be fair most people that read the papers are stupid and think no smoke without fire.

 

There is a lot of ignorance in your post.

 

I make the points I have done because the criminal burden requires a case be proven by the prosecution. This means the prosecution's case must be so persuasive that a jury is sure of guilt before they convict.

 

This obviously covers everything from thinking the accuser has said a 'load of rubbish' to 'I really quite can't be sure'. Most acquittals are far closer to the latter scenario than the former. Whilst baseless accusations are often commonplace in the Magistrates court where most cases involving people telling tales are dealt with, they are far rarer in the Crown Court.

 

Reading the evidence? I assume you weren't on the Jury? So either you worked on the case, or more than likely, read what was reported in the paper.

 

She doesn't have a 'defence' she doesn't have to defend her position. The Crown has decided Ranger had a case to answer and part of putting that to him involved evidence from her.

 

The point you make about going back with somebody is dangerously close to saying people deserve what they get. At it's worst it's a case of someone  exercising poor judgement due to alcohol impairing their reason. The idea that it's somehow a form of consent is both dangerous and grotesque.

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Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago.

 

So he has been found not to have raped her...but she walks away free and gets to live her life.

Were as no matter what mud sticks and people will alway judge him now.

 

Fair enough he is a knob but how many people are being accused only to be found innocent.

Its sick that a woman can have sex feel bad then just accuse somone of rape.

 

Anonymity is counter-productive, unfair and discriminatory.

 

Are you for f***ing real?!

 

I shouldn't need to point this out, but rape is incredibly difficult to prosecute. You want raped women who couldn't prove it beyond doubt (i.e. most raped women) to be attacked.

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The cps (crown prosecution service) decide if there is enough evidence for criminal proceedings, the court decide on guilt. Ranger is a massive cunt though, dispute that in court .

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"The point you make about going back with somebody is dangerously close to saying people deserve what they get. At it's worst it's a case of someone  exercising poor judgement due to alcohol impairing their reason. The idea that it's somehow a form of consent is both dangerous and grotesque. "

 

Fair enough this is about Ranger not rape so best defuse it.

 

Not saying anyone deserves it.

 

What I am saying is it smacks to me of someone who had drunk fling and then cried rape.

I am saying that In my opinion and from quotes I seen she knew Ranger would be trying to have sex with her so why go there? Why meet him ?

But no obviously should never happen.

 

like I said no matter how drunk I am if some guy who has been trying to have sex with me asks me to come back to a hotel with him I would never.

 

He will get locked up for somthing else soon so if he really did then Karma and all that will sort it out.

 

 

Ronaldo  I have turned over a new leaf.

Well after this has finished becasuse I should have kept out of this

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Guest alijmitchell

Remy hoping for same.

 

Was cleared ages ago.

 

So he has been found not to have raped her...but she walks away free and gets to live her life.

Were as no matter what mud sticks and people will alway judge him now.

 

Fair enough he is a knob but how many people are being accused only to be found innocent.

Its sick that a woman can have sex feel bad then just accuse somone of rape.

 

Anonymity is counter-productive, unfair and discriminatory.

 

What has happened is that people couldn't be sure if he raped her. Not really the same is it as being found not to have raped her?

 

You don't seem to have Judged him despite the accusation. Go figure.

 

Did you follow the case or just saying that becasue of the result?

 

After reading the evidence to me it seemed obvious he did not rape her.

He had made it obvious to her he wanted to have sex with her and she still kept hanging around him.

I know what you are saying but to me her evidence was very flawed.

 

Her defence was that she was drunk and could not consent.

Sorry but you don’t go out clubbing with someone then they get a taxi with you to a hotel and you don’t know what is going on.

 

If we use that defence most the sex happening in Newcastle on a weekend is rape.

All this s*** about I was to drunk is seriously BS.

I have used the  I was drunk excuse before. But no matter how drunk I was if some guy said right we are going to a hotel lets go I would never just go with him and have sex.

 

As for the not judging him because he has been accused of rape…to be fair most people that read the papers are stupid and think no smoke without fire.

 

There is a lot of ignorance in your post.

 

I make the points I have done because the criminal burden requires a case be proven by the prosecution. This means the prosecution's case must be so persuasive that a jury is sure of guilt before they convict.

 

This obviously covers everything from thinking the accuser has said a 'load of rubbish' to 'I really quite can't be sure'. Most acquittals are far closer to the latter scenario than the former. Whilst baseless accusations are often commonplace in the Magistrates court where most cases involving people telling tales are dealt with, they are far rarer in the Crown Court.

 

Reading the evidence? I assume you weren't on the Jury? So either you worked on the case, or more than likely, read what was reported in the paper.

 

She doesn't have a 'defence' she doesn't have to defend her position. The Crown has decided Ranger had a case to answer and part of putting that to him involved evidence from her.

 

The point you make about going back with somebody is dangerously close to saying people deserve what they get. At it's worst it's a case of someone  exercising poor judgement due to alcohol impairing their reason. The idea that it's somehow a form of consent is both dangerous and grotesque.

 

Good reply. Unfortunately the post before it makes me absolutely despair. If this is what relatively sane people think about rape cases/ consent. I only hope that no-one I know ever experiences rape (for obvious reasons) and trying to seek justice for it. Such an ignorant society we live in.

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Guest alijmitchell

At the end of the day, if someone is paralytic, you probably shouldn't be having sex with them

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