Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Just trying to gauge opinion... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No, haven't got the money and don't think it would help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No, simply because it'll never happen and so supporting it would be a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 i've given my answers in the other thread. i would support an attempt at FC Newcastle or something similar, but Newcastle united would still be my favourite club, FC Newcastle would be second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 It's a lovely notion but you need financial muscle to compete in today's game. We'd basically end up as a highly principled club with a really shit team as far as I can see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 you have to keep in mind, that this forum is heavilly weighted in favour of total pessimists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 how much headway has the share liverpool fc movement made? not much, and they are pretty well organised with some high profile backers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 how much headway has the share liverpool fc movement made? not much, and they are pretty well organised with some high profile backers. at least they have the satisfaction of knowing they are trying to do something real about it , instead of just talking, i can live with failure, but to never try, and complain about what others are doing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No nufc is way too big a company to be run by a bunch of amateurs. There's a million reasons why it's a bad idea. What would they do for transfers all chip in a few quid? It's amusing that most of the people supporting this are the same ones who were saying that they thought the club should be breaking the bank on transfers! Do you lot ever visit the place the rest of us call reality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Someone compile a dossier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Someone compile a dossier. You can piss right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No nufc is way too big a company to be run by a bunch of amateurs. There's a million reasons why it's a bad idea. What would they do for transfers all chip in a few quid? It's amusing that most of the people supporting this are the same ones who were saying that they thought the club should be breaking the bank on transfers! Do you lot ever visit the place the rest of us call reality? Top rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 We've got quite a few stupid fans (not meant to offend anyone), so I'm not sure it'd be a good thing that these people get a chance to run the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Depends on how much we would have to put in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 just because fans takeover a club does not mean it will by ran by amatuers. what experience of running a football club did mike ashley or chris mort have before taking over. likewise i seem to remember those 'fans' SJH and Shepherd making a pretty good job of it when they bought the club. there are plenty of newcastle fans out there with the required expertise needed to run a business, there's even plenty of them out there with big piles of cash, but i doubt there is a will or desire for them to devote their lives to running NUFC, nor do i think NUFC fans as a whole have the co-ordination or optimistic outlook to get something like this going, we're generally a pretty pessimistic bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 It's a great idea, but I simply don't think it is sustainable. Even in the unlikely event you find enough fans able to generate enough money to buy the club what next? Unless you find a a couple of particularly wealthy fans the bubble is going to burst. Not only do they have to buy the club, they have wages to pay, debts to clear, sponsorships to sort, transfer fees, not to mention all the other little fees that soon mount up. On top of this just look at this forum, there's going to be divided opinion, and where money is involved everyone well went their two pennies worth. It's alright saying we'll appoint a president to represent us, but with so many views what are they representing? The fans who's views aren't aired are quickly going to realise they may as well not bother, especially if the exact opposite of the action they want taking is being put into place. As much as we don't want it I can't help but feel a multi-billionaire willing to splash the cash is the only way forward. It's alright saying I'd rather be an honest mid-table club, but a majority of fans don't, including me. I support this club and want it to acheive all of it's potential, its all very well and good saying the fans could do a better job, but could they? Really? I have serious doubts and you're increadably naive if you think it would run so smoothly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 well ashley has lots of experience of running a business, a pretty good one too. just because it will be run by the fans there is no guarentee that it will be run by people with any knowlage of running a football club, or football. there is every chance it will be run worse than it is at the moment, and while its ok for fans to make decisions with the heart instead of the head, chairmen and owners dont have such a luxury, and no fan worth his salt can seperate himself emotionally from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 OK, say this is the deal: £250m needed to buy the club You the fan are required to stump up £5,000 spread over 5 years to pay, you can pay weekly, monthly, yearly or all up front, whatever suits your financial needs best For your money you get 1 vote (for life) when it comes to Appointing a board every 4 years who then get elected based on vote results to run the club based on a 10 commandments style this is how we do business at NUFC kind of guide. You get 1 vote for life on important decisions like whether to rename stadium rights etc. You do not and never will get to vote which manager gets appointed or sacked or which players get signed or sold, that is down to the board you elect and who they choose as manager. You get free entry to reserve and academy games for life, free TV world subscription at nufc.co.uk for life, and other freebies like magazines etc. You also get to attend open training sessions for life (imagine thousands of fans watching training sessions, would make the players feel 10ft tall and develop a real close bond between fans and players) What kind of NUFC do you get? One that is owned by a fans trust and not any one individual or collective group of businessmen, the club can never be bought or sold again. You get a club that you have an active role in helping to shape based on your vote right and a club that is geared towards serving the community. Season ticket prices will never raise above that of inflation, the club will never fleece fans, every single penny the club makes will go back into the club, every last penny. Would you buy into that kind of club? I would and I'll tell you this I'd swap that club for the one we have now, even if that means playing outside of the Premier League, being unable to go for superstar players and winning things etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 just because fans takeover a club does not mean it will by ran by amatuers. what experience of running a football club did mike ashley or chris mort have before taking over. Not a lot, that's why they got onboard people who did have experience. Ashley doesn't run the club. However both have significant business experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 What if we borrowed some off the cash of Shepherd, he has a canny bit floating around doing nowt at the minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 As if it's that easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No I see nothing wrong with the current set up apart from those living in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 HTT, I was saying yes to everything except the final sentence about swapping out for the EPL. No offense mate, just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 What would happen if someone pumped a million into the club? Would they get 200 votes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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