Kasper Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Nope. I'd rather give some of the young ones a chance next season from the bench if (when) we're hit with loads of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Success in the premier league is squad based Frankly, Shola isnt anything amazing, very average at best, but the lad trys, and we have got to stop letting players go, we are going through transfer windows by letting players go first, then trying to replace them, which is very difficult and risky. we need players like shola to play in cup games, or when we are desperate, and that makes he more valuable when u need to rest players and stuff Give shola a new contract, for how long i dont know, but we need to start building a sqaud and stop letting players go without replacing them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 if he hits 10 goals by the end of the season offer him one lol. nah, i do think a years extension, to help make up the numbers until new owners / managers etc come in as we'll be thin on the ground, still rather see dutland custard in the team though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 If we get relegated, yes! He's the sort of quality we'll be able to keep hold of if we go down. He'll probably do well in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Success in the premier league is squad based Frankly, Shola isnt anything amazing, very average at best, but the lad trys, and we have got to stop letting players go, we are going through transfer windows by letting players go first, then trying to replace them, which is very difficult and risky. we need players like shola to play in cup games, or when we are desperate, and that makes he more valuable when u need to rest players and stuff Give shola a new contract, for how long i dont know, but we need to start building a sqaud and stop letting players go without replacing them Drivel. Makes me want to throw up even, a mixture of popular myths with half truths. Your logic is pretty skewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umer Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. We could replace him without spending a penny tbh. I'd give Ranger his chance to see what he can do for a start. In fact, getting Shola off the payroll and promoting Ranger wouldn't harm the team and trim the wage bill substantially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 No fucking way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shearer_206 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 No fucking way. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. We could replace him without spending a penny tbh. I'd give Ranger his chance to see what he can do for a start. In fact, getting Shola off the payroll and promoting Ranger wouldn't harm the team and trim the wage bill substantially. Is Nile Ranger a target man who will win the ball in the air? I always had the impression he was more of an Anelka type, big but better with the ball at his feet. The genuine target men in our side for me are Viduka, Shola, Carroll and Xisco. Viduka will cost 80k/wk to sit on his arse if we want to give him a new contract, Xisco wasn't getting a start ahead of Shola, and that leaves us with Carroll. I think with Shola at least you know what you will get and a 1-2 year contract would be a decent option for a back up target man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarralad Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Yes,no more than a 2 year one tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Poll required! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Would be interesting to have seen this thread before his revival under Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Poll required! Done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. The two of you are off your head. The last thing we should be doing if money is thight (which would be a disgrace, but that's another matter) is handing out contract extension to players who have proven themselves over years and years to not be good enough.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jawesome Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Offer him a pay-as-you-score deal tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. The two of you are off your head. The last thing we should be doing if money is thight (which would be a disgrace, but that's another matter) is handing out contract extension to players who have proven themselves over years and years to not be good enough.. If we apply that logic to our club we would end up with a squad of about 6 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparta Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 for what its worth its a no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Most definitely no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umer Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. The two of you are off your head. The last thing we should be doing if money is thight (which would be a disgrace, but that's another matter) is handing out contract extension to players who have proven themselves over years and years to not be good enough.. If we apply that logic to our club we would end up with a squad of about 6 players. Exactly. Yes in a perfect world we would get rid of shola, but unless we are in a position to actually bring in a player to replace him with we should keep him on for an extra year at least. Ofcourse Ranger and other youngesters should be given their chance, but what happens if they're aren't any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 There was one time in his career here when that stuff about his potential, etc, was true. That was going into the 06/07 season when we'd signed Martins, and he was on a really good run of form. Then he got that hip injury and he's generally been even worse than when he was before that little run under Roeder. He's come in and done a relatively acceptable job lately but his goal record still absolutely stinks. Time to go. It was time to go several seasons ago, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Amazing how many people would give him a new contract because of a small resale value. The guy is like a bad stench; he won't leave unless his contract ends and we give him the boot; last summer has proven that. As a player he is nowhere near the desired level. With Owen, Viduka and him likely to leave our strikeforce needs a major overhaul anyway. Keep Martins as a squad player and find two or three other players capable of performing consistently at Premiership level. They cost money, who knows how much is going to be made available, either with Ashley here or any potential new owners. If there was money to replace Shola and the other players who's contracts are running out, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Agree 100%, and until we know there is any money available we can't afford to get rid of players as we might not be able to replace them. The two of you are off your head. The last thing we should be doing if money is thight (which would be a disgrace, but that's another matter) is handing out contract extension to players who have proven themselves over years and years to not be good enough.. If we apply that logic to our club we would end up with a squad of about 6 players. Exactly. Yes in a perfect world we would get rid of shola, but unless we are in a position to actually bring in a player to replace him with we should keep him on for an extra year at least. Ofcourse Ranger and other youngesters should be given their chance, but what happens if they're aren't any good? NE5 has a point you know. A club of our size owes it to itself and us supporters to have a level of ambition that matches the club's stature. Over the past few seasons not only our results have dwindled, but it now seems our expectations are also getting significantly lower. I don't think that is acceptable. The owner, whether it was Shepherd, Ashley or a new man needs to be prepared to fund continuous improvement. If they aren't, we will fall further behind, because the competition certainly IS investing and improving. For me, it would be another sign of lowered ambition if we offered a below par player a new contract. If that's the best the owner can offer the club they are really letting us down and deserve to be hounded out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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