Guest rebel_yell12 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 This is the same Freddy Shepherd who was talking about the financial impact of Owen's injury the day he done his knee at WC '06. Not a word of worry or sympathy for a 26 yr old player facing a possibly career-ending injury (at the time, it was thought both the ACL and the MCL were torn) -- a player who (it came out later) had personally made calls to apologize for getting injured to both the head of NUFC (Shepherd, I should guess), and Northern Rock, amongst others, by half-time of that match. The same FFS who made wonderful comments about Newcastle's women, etc. -- the list goes on and on. For him to even attempt to speak from/about a "moral" high-ground is an affront to reasonable people, imo. That said, Owen is no doubt thinking about business and his career, not any "moral" issue. Yes, he was injured, but it's not as if he got himself suspended or jailed or something -- injuries are a part of football and always a gamble when you sign a contract. Does Eduardo "owe" Arsenal? No, he doesn't. I understand that Eduardo was at least injured in an Arsenal kit, whilst Owen was injured in an England kit, but the FA reimbursed Newcastle for I think 10 mil (double Owen's wages for the year spent out). Owen is seeing out the entirety of his contract, and may still re-sign (if Newcastle show improvement, get the background stuff sorted, etc.) -- he's hardly told the club to f*** off with the new contract. He's asking for more time, probably to see if there's a new owner/resolution to the background chaos. Does anyone else think Owen's comment about wages was intended to keep the press quiet about the supposed pay-cut? Or at least, minimise the spin. I've gotten the impression that Owen felt he was offered a very fair contract, he just needs more time to make a decision. And given the status of the club (non-permanent manager, an owner trying to sell, etc.) and the history whilst he's been here (5 managers, 2 owners with a third trying to be arranged, a few different board set-ups, changing coaches & staff, etc.) I don't blame him. I don't think too many of the fans do either -- at least judging from this board. Being a bit disappointed is expected but very few seem to be truly blaming Owen for what seems a sensible decision. Any player with other options would be a bit mad to sign on to this right now (so, I expect Butt & Ameobi at least to re-sign). Although, as someone pointed out upthread, it's a bit of a gamble for Owen too. If he's injured come May/June (or has the measles or something else like he done last summer) he could take a serious hit in marketability. Of course, if he's been continuously fit (touch wood) and scoring at his current pace -- his marketability on a free would be huge, I should think. Sadly, I think he may view that as a far less risky gamble than signing on with Newcastle United for another three years and three or four more managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I don't think Shepherd is in a position to preach about 'morals' to anyone, least of all Owen..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Surely Owen wants his England place back. So he has to to go somewhere he's going to get guaranteed first team football and can keep Capello's attention. I can't see him being a nailed on starter at any of the so called big 4 clubs tbh. He can't do 4-5-1 and that's what gets played quite often these days... Isn't he more likely to get into the England squad being a top four squad player than he is playing regularly for us and having games where he is anonymous because the service he needs isn't there? Of course it isn't, Capello isn't going to pick a striker that isn't even a regular for their club. Staying fit and continuing to score goals regularly for us will get him into the England side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 For Shepherd, “it is a case of what might have been” when he reflects on Owen’s Newcastle days. “If he’d stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel,” Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted twat FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If a decent bid comes in in January for him, the club will sell him rather than losing him for free in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Could this be the best way to contact Michael: http://www.manorhousestables.com/contact.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If a decent bid comes in in January for him, the club will sell him rather than losing him for free in the summer. And then Owen would remind NUFC that he said he won't be going anywhere until the end of his contract. All the power is with Owen. Unless it suits him he won't go anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If a decent bid comes in in January for him, the club will sell him rather than losing him for free in the summer. No they won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If a decent bid comes in in January for him, the club will sell him rather than losing him for free in the summer. Why not? It's not like we're in a relegation battle. I don't see any reason for the club to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thefishman Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Not sure if this has been posted, what would MO or nufc do if owen got injured and was out for the next 9 months? Bet the fucka would sign then! imo hes already agreed to sign for whoever but doesnt want the flak off the toon fans for the next few months,so says im still debating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 For Shepherd, it is a case of what might have been when he reflects on Owens Newcastle days. If hed stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel, Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted t*** FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place The same owner who was caught on camera saying "I'd drive him back to Liverpool". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 For Shepherd, it is a case of what might have been when he reflects on Owens Newcastle days. If hed stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel, Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted t*** FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place The same owner who was caught on camera saying "I'd drive him back to Liverpool". christ aye!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 For Shepherd, it is a case of what might have been when he reflects on Owens Newcastle days. If hed stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel, Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted t*** FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place The same owner who was caught on camera saying "I'd drive him back to Liverpool". Forgot about that, wonder if thats mentioned when certain posters blame the new board for not getting Owen to sign a new contract (as if he ever was). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Aye, I remember that. Said he'd carry him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 http://ballhype.com/video/youtube_shepherd_i_ll_carry_owen_back_to_anfield/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 For Shepherd, it is a case of what might have been when he reflects on Owens Newcastle days. If hed stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel, Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted t*** FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place The same owner who was caught on camera saying "I'd drive him back to Liverpool". Forgot about that, wonder if thats mentioned when certain posters blame the new board for not getting Owen to sign a new contract (as if he ever was). Well they will have been in charge for half of his tenure here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 For Shepherd, it is a case of what might have been when he reflects on Owens Newcastle days. If hed stayed fit I certainly think we would have finished in the top three but football can be very cruel, Shepherd added. Yeah, righto, Freddy. Course we would have. absolutely priceless, should be a timely reminder of (a) what a mouthy fuckwitted t*** FS actually was & (b) that chairmen/owners don't always know a lot about football - topical one that 3rd place The same owner who was caught on camera saying "I'd drive him back to Liverpool". Forgot about that, wonder if thats mentioned when certain posters blame the new board for not getting Owen to sign a new contract (as if he ever was). Well they will have been in charge for half of his tenure here. He was still never going to sign imo and it will no doubt be seen as their failure when he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't think he ever intended on signing, but if we nip into Europe (low chance, not impossible) he might stay. Always assumed he'd be off at the end of the year anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't think he ever intended on signing, but if we nip into Europe (low chance, not impossible) he might stay. Always assumed he'd be off at the end of the year anyway. It's funny what a couple of wins can do, isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't think he ever intended on signing, but if we nip into Europe (low chance, not impossible) he might stay. Always assumed he'd be off at the end of the year anyway. If we nip into the Champions League, sign a few world class players, and offer as good a wage as he can get elsewhere, then I'm inclined to agree with you. Can't see him being impressed by the Waffa and its low profile ties with obscure Eastern European and Scandinavian teams. Signing for us would be the last resort imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't think he ever intended on signing, but if we nip into Europe (low chance, not impossible) he might stay. Always assumed he'd be off at the end of the year anyway. It's funny what a couple of wins can do, isn't it. Not really, I've always been a 2 on the relegation-ometer But looking at the table we're the same distance (both points and places) from Europe as we are the relegation zone iirc. Both are extremely unlikely, but not to be altogether discounted, especially with the league as it has been this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't think he ever intended on signing, but if we nip into Europe (low chance, not impossible) he might stay. Always assumed he'd be off at the end of the year anyway. It's funny what a couple of wins can do, isn't it. To be fair, we were saying this before we won those last two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/3982201/Manchester-City-poised-for-Michael-Owen-bid.html City to put a £6million bid in . £6 mill is tempting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/3982201/Manchester-City-poised-for-Michael-Owen-bid.html City to put a £6million bid in . £6 mill is tempting And then what do we do? Xisco and Carroll up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 If we got £6m for Owen, then I'd have no problems whatsover paying upto £10m for Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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