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[The College Dropout]

10 hours ago, TRC said:

Spence is a bit of a twat isn’t he?

 

Did the whole penitentiary thing too this season and then lost every game possible.

Good player. If Spurs go down it's a no-brainer to me.

 

10 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

I thought Solanke would be a cert for leaving with him wanting to  get a look-in for England.

Is someone going to get him in the PL though and match his wages?

[Moose]

6 hours ago, toontownman said:

 

 

In an era of mindless, soul destroying, AI slop that was refreshingly funny.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, sushimonster85 said:

 

And I've always actually found what I will always call the UEFA Cup a sexier trophy than the European Cup. 

Your taste is impeccable 👍

[leffe186]

On 14/04/2026 at 06:03, Ben said:

 

When we went down with Benitez we ended up loaning out a few players just to get them off the wage bill, we did get a few quid off Spurs for Sissoko though.

 

Yeah, I had a quick look:

• Sissoko, Wijnaldum and Townsend went for good money
• Janmaat, Cabella and Cisse went for cheap
• Tioté, Coloccini and Steven Taylor went for nothing
• the key loan players were probably Thauvin and Siem De Jong. Maybe Riviere at a push - don't know how much he was on.

 

On 13/04/2026 at 23:01, The College Dropout said:

When you get relegated - it’s the players that are good and other teams actually want that go. 
 

Gray is going. Bergvall is going. Kudus is going. Would get £150m or more for the 3. 
 

It’s the Bissouma’s, Richarlison’s that are hard to shift. Late 20’s, big wages, low fees these are the ones that end up staying.  

Like whatever we get for Livramento, we throw that on Spence. 

 

Maybe. The guys you sold are above, you did keep Mitrovic. Anyone else good?

 

Posted on Reddit that I think this relegation is particularly fascinating and unique because it's a genuinely unprecedented level of talent on the books. And probably an unprecedented level of injury risk. You had three players leave for good money - we could in theory have more than 20. That won't happen. We also have seven players out for the season, of whom it's possible two or three (or more) will still be rehabbing next season. Then you factor in that we don't actually know the relegation clauses in contracts - if they exist. Bissouma himself will not be hard to shift at all - he is out of contract.

 

I think these are the groups:

 

1. Loanees - Palhinha and Kolo Muani are gone.

2. Players with one foot out of the door - Vicario, Bissouma, Davies (a chance we re-sign him if he recovers and there's room)

3. Players we'd like to keep but who are probably too valuable and will likely want out - Romero, VDV, Kulu, Porro, Udogie, Solanke, Kudus, Gallagher, Simons

4. Young players in that category who we might fight harder to keep - Sarr, Bergvall, Gray, Odobert, Tel

5. Players I suspect we'd be happy to let go - Bentancur, Richarlison, Dragusin, possibly Spence depending upon RDZ

6. Players who I think might stay (just a feeling) - Danso, Souza, Maddison

 

Injuries are a factor in both players' mindsets and other clubs' considerations. You've got players like Kulu and Maddison who have missed the season and may want stability and rehabbing, plus Odobert who we probably won't see at least until Xmas. Then you consider we have a new manager RDZ who's in a position of power and has the perfect opportunity to remake a squad as he deems fit. There's also a ton of young loan players he can integrate, some of whom have Championship experience. Remember also that Bissouma and Davies are out of contract, Richarlison's ends in 2027 but every other player is contracted to Jun 2028 at least. Right now, those younger players have long contracts with far cheaper wages and selling people like Bentancur and Romero is far more valuable vs PSR than selling Gray and Kudus simply because of amortisation.

 

We just don't know - there are so many variables and this is such a unique situation. You say that the "Late 20’s, big wages, low fees" players are the hard ones to shift, but we're such a young squad. If by late 20s you mean 27+ then out of that 3-6 list it's Romero (27), Danso (27), Bentancur (28), Maddison (29), Solanke (28), Richarlison (28). Just six players. Danso and Maddison, I'd rather keep anyway (Danso's on relatively low wages as it is), I don't think we'll have any problems selling Romero and Solanke, and that just leaves Richarlison and Bentancur. Both have been with us for four years so even if they get loaned or a free transfer it's not much of an impact on PSR.

 

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, leffe186 said:

 

Yeah, I had a quick look:

• Sissoko, Wijnaldum and Townsend went for good money
• Janmaat, Cabella and Cisse went for cheap
• Tioté, Coloccini and Steven Taylor went for nothing
• the key loan players were probably Thauvin and Siem De Jong. Maybe Riviere at a push - don't know how much he was on.

 

 

Maybe. The guys you sold are above, you did keep Mitrovic. Anyone else good?

 

Posted on Reddit that I think this relegation is particularly fascinating and unique because it's a genuinely unprecedented level of talent on the books. And probably an unprecedented level of injury risk. You had three players leave for good money - we could in theory have more than 20. That won't happen. We also have seven players out for the season, of whom it's possible two or three (or more) will still be rehabbing next season. Then you factor in that we don't actually know the relegation clauses in contracts - if they exist. Bissouma himself will not be hard to shift at all - he is out of contract.

 

I think these are the groups:

 

1. Loanees - Palhinha and Kolo Muani are gone.

2. Players with one foot out of the door - Vicario, Bissouma, Davies (a chance we re-sign him if he recovers and there's room)

3. Players we'd like to keep but who are probably too valuable and will likely want out - Romero, VDV, Kulu, Porro, Udogie, Solanke, Kudus, Gallagher, Simons

4. Young players in that category who we might fight harder to keep - Sarr, Bergvall, Gray, Odobert, Tel

5. Players I suspect we'd be happy to let go - Bentancur, Richarlison, Dragusin, possibly Spence depending upon RDZ

6. Players who I think might stay (just a feeling) - Danso, Souza, Maddison

 

Injuries are a factor in both players' mindsets and other clubs' considerations. You've got players like Kulu and Maddison who have missed the season and may want stability and rehabbing, plus Odobert who we probably won't see at least until Xmas. Then you consider we have a new manager RDZ who's in a position of power and has the perfect opportunity to remake a squad as he deems fit. There's also a ton of young loan players he can integrate, some of whom have Championship experience. Remember also that Bissouma and Davies are out of contract, Richarlison's ends in 2027 but every other player is contracted to Jun 2028 at least. Right now, those younger players have long contracts with far cheaper wages and selling people like Bentancur and Romero is far more valuable vs PSR than selling Gray and Kudus simply because of amortisation.

 

We just don't know - there are so many variables and this is such a unique situation. You say that the "Late 20’s, big wages, low fees" players are the hard ones to shift, but we're such a young squad. If by late 20s you mean 27+ then out of that 3-6 list it's Romero (27), Danso (27), Bentancur (28), Maddison (29), Solanke (28), Richarlison (28). Just six players. Danso and Maddison, I'd rather keep anyway (Danso's on relatively low wages as it is), I don't think we'll have any problems selling Romero and Solanke, and that just leaves Richarlison and Bentancur. Both have been with us for four years so even if they get loaned or a free transfer it's not much of an impact on PSR.

 

I don't think anyone wanted him or not at least at a price we were happy with. Benitez didn't even rate him.

 

For us you have to look at the 2009 relegation. That was an actual midtable team that went down. 2016 is a much weaker team outside a small handful of players.

 

It's the likes of Dragusin or Richarlison that will be hard to shift. And you might not have teh interest you expect in Odobert, Sarr, Tel etc. As an outsider i'm not sure there's a good market for Solanke. One of Richarlison or Solanke could slap up the Championship.

 

You're going to have to make a lot of signings yourself. And you will have to sign some stop gaps and proper men which would be good for you.

 

 

Edited April 15 by The College Dropout

[leffe186]

27 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't think anyone wanted him or not at least at a price we were happy with. Benitez didn't even rate him.

 

For us you have to look at the 2009 relegation. That was an actual midtable team that went down. 2016 is a much weaker team outside a small handful of players.

 

It's the likes of Dragusin or Richarlison that will be hard to shift. And you might not have teh interest you expect in Odobert, Sarr, Tel etc. As an outsider i'm not sure there's a good market for Solanke.

 

You're going to have to make a lot of signings yourself.

Yeah I’ll take a look at 2009. Might be a bit too far away for comparison given the financial changes in the game since and the strength of competitors.
 

I feel like you’re having a different conversation than me though. I don’t want to sell Odobert, Tel or Sarr. Or Solanke for that matter. When you say “the likes of Dragusin or Richarlison” the only other player I put in that bracket was Bentancur. Those three are players we’d probably like to get shot of. Someone will take them relatively cheap or on loan, and we can sell Bentancur and Richarlison for peanuts and not take much of a loss because they’ve been with us a while.

 

There isn’t really such a thing for us as a good market in this situation. We’re over a barrel to an extent whether or not there are relegation clauses. Clubs can pick and choose, but they will know there’s value to be had. I think those nine players in group 3 would generate a lot of money, although they won’t go for the price we paid. They don’t have to. 

 

Looking on the positive side, it’s an opportunity for RDZ to remake the squad in his own image. I’m expecting major squad surgery. I’m just not sure we’ll have to sell Gray or Bergvall to achieve that.

 

[andycap]

What were spurs thinking? Bringing in a piss poor manager after they got rid of Frank, if they went with de zerbi straight away they more than likely would've learned his style and pulled away from the drop zone. 

[leffe186]

Sales in 2009 were surprisingly similar. Two decent sales (Martins, Bassong), Three cheapies (Duff, Beye and Edgar) and a couple of peculiar freebies (Geremi, Owen, Viduka retiring).

 

I thought Villa’s 2016 relegation might be a guide but their biggest sale was Gueye for less than €10M. I mean, we’re not going to make a fortune on guys like Kudus or Romero but people will pay more than that. The whole thing is fascinating, for me at least.

[leffe186]

30 minutes ago, andycap said:

What were spurs thinking? Bringing in a piss poor manager after they got rid of Frank, if they went with de zerbi straight away they more than likely would've learned his style and pulled away from the drop zone. 

He was managing Marseille at the time. Tudor became manager I think a day or two after he left Marseille. I don’t know if we approached him around then but Frank should have been sacked weeks before. The general feeling was that we were hoping to limp through to the summer but if what we’ve heard since about the behind-the-scenes situation is true that was negligent.

 

Either way, when Tudor came in we still had about a dozen players missing each week. Kudus and Odobert had just got injured ruling them out for the season. Maybe RDZ would have been able to turn it around, maybe not. I’m not convinced. This has felt like a cursed season from the beginning  and the players are completely bereft of confidence.

[TheBrownBottle]

15 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't think anyone wanted him or not at least at a price we were happy with. Benitez didn't even rate him.

 

For us you have to look at the 2009 relegation. That was an actual midtable team that went down. 2016 is a much weaker team outside a small handful of players.

 

It's the likes of Dragusin or Richarlison that will be hard to shift. And you might not have teh interest you expect in Odobert, Sarr, Tel etc. As an outsider i'm not sure there's a good market for Solanke. One of Richarlison or Solanke could slap up the Championship.

 

You're going to have to make a lot of signings yourself. And you will have to sign some stop gaps and proper men which would be good for you.

 

 

 

Yep - Mitrovic was effectively fourth choice behind Gayle, Murphy and Perez

[Ronson333]

14 hours ago, leffe186 said:

He was managing Marseille at the time. Tudor became manager I think a day or two after he left Marseille. I don’t know if we approached him around then but Frank should have been sacked weeks before. The general feeling was that we were hoping to limp through to the summer but if what we’ve heard since about the behind-the-scenes situation is true that was negligent.

 

Either way, when Tudor came in we still had about a dozen players missing each week. Kudus and Odobert had just got injured ruling them out for the season. Maybe RDZ would have been able to turn it around, maybe not. I’m not convinced. This has felt like a cursed season from the beginning  and the players are completely bereft of confidence.

What happened behind the scenes?

[The College Dropout]

15 hours ago, leffe186 said:

Sales in 2009 were surprisingly similar. Two decent sales (Martins, Bassong), Three cheapies (Duff, Beye and Edgar) and a couple of peculiar freebies (Geremi, Owen, Viduka retiring).

 

I thought Villa’s 2016 relegation might be a guide but their biggest sale was Gueye for less than €10M. I mean, we’re not going to make a fortune on guys like Kudus or Romero but people will pay more than that. The whole thing is fascinating, for me at least.

Martins, Bassong, Beye, Geremi, Owen, Ciduka were our best players.  
 

If we had a decent offer for Colo he would’ve gone. All we had left was players nobody else wanted enough.  
 

The same will be true for Spurs. You might have 2 or 3 that stay just because nobody else will pay their wage.  I find it hard to believe a player like Archie Gray would stay if a top 8-10 club wants him. 

[vexred]

A Brighton win is the only thing that will brighten my mood today. 

[Miggys First Goal]

 

[leffe186]

It’s so unbelievably frustrating to me that despite these players coming back out of the blue from injury and Maddison apparently not counting as injured despite the manager saying he’s basically a mascot, we are STILL top of the bloody injury table

[Heron]

1 minute ago, leffe186 said:

It’s so unbelievably frustrating to me that despite these players coming back out of the blue from injury and Maddison apparently not counting as injured despite the manager saying he’s basically a mascot, we are STILL top of the bloody injury table

How do you feel your chances are of staying up? My boss is a Spurs fan or something was before he was dismissed and our site lead also support Spurs and they basically think it's a done deal and have thought so for a while.

[El Prontonise]

On 23/04/2026 at 09:36, Miggys First Goal said:

 

 

[woody]

On 15/04/2026 at 10:41, leffe186 said:

We’re over a barrel to an extent whether or not there are relegation clauses

This will be the interesting thing to see, as I feel this was a major issue for us in 2009. Your revenue should be enough to handle it and you should walk the Championship (famous last words )

[Pixelphish]

I still think they’ll edge it.

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, Pixelphish said:

I still think they’ll edge it.

Promotion? 

[Pixelphish]

Just now, Heron said:

Promotion? 

[leffe186]

1 hour ago, Heron said:

How do you feel your chances are of staying up? My boss is a Spurs fan or something was before he was dismissed and our site lead also support Spurs and they basically think it's a done deal and have thought so for a while.

I’ve been the same. Accepted it and been looking at what we have to do next. My memory of your relegation in 2009 was that there was plenty of shooting yourselves in the foot but also for weeks and weeks almost nothing went right for you. Managing to get relegated behind that Hull team was quite an achievement. This has felt like a very similar situation, and the sides at the bottom are much stronger now so there’s less margin for error.

 

The Brighton match was encouraging because of how we played and what that says about De Zerbi, but ultimately it feels like another kick in the teeth. Putting the equalizer to one side, part of us looking more balanced and effective was Udogie coming back and whaddya know, he’s out injured again. We still don’t have a penalty all season, we still have the lowest amount of tackles per card in the league etc etc. 

 

From having nothing going our way, we now need everything to suddenly move in the opposite direction. It’s not very likely. I do think our squad and De Zerbi is capable of keeping us up but we need to start getting some luck. That said, I fully expected West Ham to beat Crystal Palace, so who knows?

[Heron]

3 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

I’ve been the same. Accepted it and been looking at what we have to do next. My memory of your relegation in 2009 was that there was plenty of shooting yourselves in the foot but also for weeks and weeks almost nothing went right for you. Managing to get relegated behind that Hull team was quite an achievement. This has felt like a very similar situation, and the sides at the bottom are much stronger now so there’s less margin for error.

 

The Brighton match was encouraging because of how we played and what that says about De Zerbi, but ultimately it feels like another kick in the teeth. Putting the equalizer to one side, part of us looking more balanced and effective was Udogie coming back and whaddya know, he’s out injured again. We still don’t have a penalty all season, we still have the lowest amount of tackles per card in the league etc etc. 

 

From having nothing going our way, we now need everything to suddenly move in the opposite direction. It’s not very likely. I do think our squad and De Zerbi is capable of keeping us up but we need to start getting some luck. That said, I fully expected West Ham to beat Crystal Palace, so who knows?

I was truly astonished when I watched yous against us like. "Sideways and backwards everywhere we go" was something I was told about but I just thought "Naaa, it cannot be that bad like." Then when I watched I was just like..."this is horrific."

 

Making Tudor manager wasn't the right move and another sign of mismanagement and for me the players all have an air of complacency about them. I know you've had a bad season of injuries but I just struggle to pin it on bad luck personally.

 

I think you're players aren't up for the fight and the chemistry isn't right. I think some of them think they've made it cause they're living the London life and in the big league, at a big club. It's that and some poor on field decision making that is seemingly endemic(?) from bad management above that has developed into a perfect storm for Spurs.

 

Gonna be an interesting few games, as I think De Zerbi will be a decent appointment but it depends how volatile he/it all becomes.

[sempuki]

Two horse race, Spuds being Sad Ken, if Forest beat the mackems tonight.

[Abacus]

When we got relegated at Villa with a team that on paper shouldn't go down, you were still hoping for a moment of magic from somewhere.

 

It was a desperate feeling.

 

In retrospect it was a good relegation because all the players that didn't put a shift in went, but that's unusual. This has a similar feeling with Spurs where you wonder where the characters are to get you out of it.