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Just now, Joe1984 said:

In the last 5 matches between them, Wolves have won 3 and there have been 2 draws. 😅

Ha, didn't realise that. Mind changed. Spurs are screwed.

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1 hour ago, vexred said:

I hoped they would go down but I didn't believe they would. If West Ham can hold on then I'll believe Spurs are doomed. 


Even a win brings more signs. The two key players De Zerbi praised for their ability and confidence against Brighton were…Simons and Solanke. It’s absolutely insane and I’m fucking sick of it :lol:

 

Even if we were a well-constructed squad playing well under a settled manager, you just can’t maintain this. That’s us back up to 11 players out injured (plus Byfield and Williams-Barnett, the two best players in our U21s). We need to start getting a bit of luck. One team has precisely zero injures in the injury table. Guess who?
 

I didn’t think it was a red card personally but certainly a yellow, however I am genuinely confident that if it was Bissouma on Andre he’d have seen red. I don’t know how many people said they’d take relegation if it meant winning the Europa, but it was clearly enough.

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6 minutes ago, vexred said:

@leffe186 I feel a bit sorry for you guys. The injuries are horrendous. Do you believe the theory that your pitch is contributing to the injuries? 


Our problem has been for the last 2-3 years it’s difficult to separate the incompetence from the bad luck :lol:. It’s possible I guess.

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Was still a bad gameweek for Spurs this. Given the fixtures this was the one gameweek where we'd think that they would catch up a bit. Being in the same position after playing Wolves is a bummer, especially with more injuries aswell.

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11 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Was still a bad gameweek for Spurs this. Given the fixtures this was the one gameweek where we'd think that they would catch up a bit. Being in the same position after playing Wolves is a bummer, especially with more injuries aswell.

Yeah just running out of games now with a harder game next week.

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Spurs:

Villa (a)

Leeds (h)

Chelsea (a)

Everton (h)

 

West Ham:

Brentford (a)

Arsenal (h)

Us (a)

Leeds (h)

 

I think Spurs have the slight edge with the remaining fixtures but I can see West Ham winning against us and Leeds and that may be all they need. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Moose said:

Spurs:

Villa (a)

Leeds (h)

Chelsea (a)

Everton (h)

 

West Ham:

Brentford (a)

Arsenal (h)

Us (a)

Leeds (h)

 

I think Spurs have the slight edge with the remaining fixtures but I can see West Ham winning against us and Leeds and that may be all they need. 

 


I hope we try and lose if it means spurs fucking off to oblivion.

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44 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:


I hope we try and lose if it means spurs fucking off to oblivion.

Can't afford to drop many more points, we're right in this. 

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1 hour ago, Moose said:

Spurs:

Villa (a)

Leeds (h)

Chelsea (a)

Everton (h)

 

West Ham:

Brentford (a)

Arsenal (h)

Us (a)

Leeds (h)

 

I think Spurs have the slight edge with the remaining fixtures but I can see West Ham winning against us and Leeds and that may be all they need. 

 


Just on the fixtures I’d have said so too, but that’s not the problem. Sure, I can see you and Leeds rolling over for West Ham, but the key thing is the squad.

 

At this point in the season, if you’re in a relegation scrap you want to be well-organized, keep it tight and have your creative players come up with something. West Ham have zero injuries, just played three consecutive games with the exact same starting XI and in the game before that just had a tactical straight swap of Wan-Bissaka for KWP and Potts for Soucek. They’ve had the same matchday squad for weeks and weeks and been able to rest players in cup games. Their attacking players have been scoring, and Bowen has set up pretty much every League goal this last couple of months.

 

In contrast, we’ve consistently had about 10 players out injured. In the last five league games we’ve had 22 different starters, of whom six are newly out injured to add to all the long term guys. More than one guy per game got injured and is now out, four of them may be out for the season. It’s mental.

 

Building a well-organized team as a new manager in these conditions is very difficult, but the biggest concern now is that attacking creativity. Ideally that would come from Maddison, Kulusevski, Kudus, Simons, Odobert and/or Solanke. They’re all injured. All of them. Take Bowen, Summerville, Pedro and Castellanos out of West Ham - just those four attacking players - and they’d  be punting the ball up for Callum Wilson to chase. They’d be completely fucked.

 

I just can’t see it. The two remaining forwards who might be able to create things are Tel and Kolo Muani. Kolo Muani’s confidence is shot, to the point RDZ said post-match he’d be eating every meal this week with him to gee him up. De Zerbi knows he’s running out of players. Tel is fun, but he’s more than two years younger than Osula. Bergvall’s even younger. They’ve got so much to learn, and now’s not the time to be learning stuff.


I pity RDZ. We might be able to get through this based on Richarlison’s work rate and a bit of luck, but it feels like an impossible job.

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12 minutes ago, leffe186 said:


Just on the fixtures I’d have said so too, but that’s not the problem. Sure, I can see you and Leeds rolling over for West Ham, but the key thing is the squad.

 

At this point in the season, if you’re in a relegation scrap you want to be well-organized, keep it tight and have your creative players come up with something. West Ham have zero injuries, just played three consecutive games with the exact same starting XI and in the game before that just had a tactical straight swap of Wan-Bissaka for KWP and Potts for Soucek. They’ve had the same matchday squad for weeks and weeks and been able to rest players in cup games. Their attacking players have been scoring, and Bowen has set up pretty much every League goal this last couple of months.

 

In contrast, we’ve consistently had about 10 players out injured. In the last five league games we’ve had 22 different starters, of whom six are newly out injured to add to all the long term guys. More than one guy per game got injured and is now out, four of them may be out for the season. It’s mental.

 

Building a well-organized team as a new manager in these conditions is very difficult, but the biggest concern now is that attacking creativity. Ideally that would come from Maddison, Kulusevski, Kudus, Simons, Odobert and/or Solanke. They’re all injured. All of them. Take Bowen, Summerville, Pedro and Castellanos out of West Ham - just those four attacking players - and they’d  be punting the ball up for Callum Wilson to chase. They’d be completely fucked.

 

I just can’t see it. The two remaining forwards who might be able to create things are Tel and Kolo Muani. Kolo Muani’s confidence is shot, to the point RDZ said post-match he’d be eating every meal this week with him to gee him up. De Zerbi knows he’s running out of players. Tel is fun, but he’s more than two years younger than Osula. Bergvall’s even younger. They’ve got so much to learn, and now’s not the time to be learning stuff.


I pity RDZ. We might be able to get through this based on Richarlison’s work rate and a bit of luck, but it feels like an impossible job.

 

Wow, I mean I knew you had rotten luck with injuries but not like that.

 

Even so, do you not think you'll get enough from your remaining fixtures?

Villa (a) will be tricky but they've had a few wobbles lately and they've got Europe to think about. Leeds and Everton are on the beach and Chelsea are utterly pathetic right now. Where you think the points will come from?

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11 minutes ago, Moose said:

 

Wow, I mean I knew you had rotten luck with injuries but not like that.

 

Even so, do you not think you'll get enough from your remaining fixtures?

Villa (a) will be tricky but they've had a few wobbles lately and they've got Europe to think about. Leeds and Everton are on the beach and Chelsea are utterly pathetic right now. Where you think the points will come from?


Like I say, I think the bigger issue is the teams we can put out. I trust RDZ to do the best possible job, but I think we need three wins. Villa have been meh and we play them in between European games, but it was the home games I was looking at. Just…I don’t know where the goals are coming from. 
 

Look at the Brighton game. The two goals we get are ultimately from a lovely clever pass and then a brilliant finish from Simons. He’s probably done for the season now. Richarlison can be effective with service but I’m not sure who can provide it. 
 

I was so annoyed that Rosenior got the boot before we played them. Even more annoyed when I saw the handball penalty Everton didn’t get today, hot on the heels of the refs telling us “yeah, sorry lads, we should have sent Brobbey off at least once, that sucks”. Magic.

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11 hours ago, Moose said:

 

Wow, I mean I knew you had rotten luck with injuries but not like that.

 

Even so, do you not think you'll get enough from your remaining fixtures?

Villa (a) will be tricky but they've had a few wobbles lately and they've got Europe to think about. Leeds and Everton are on the beach and Chelsea are utterly pathetic right now. Where you think the points will come from?


BTW some guy just posted this:

 

It genuinely has a debilitating effect on you as a fan. You remember what it was like for you three years ago, or whenever you had that crisis. All the while the media either downplayed it or ignored it.
 

There’s clearly something very wrong, although whether it’s conditioning, medical staff, the pitch? No idea.

 

 

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Isn't the theory that the retractable pitch is a lot more dangerous for players? Real Madrid have similar setup and had loads of problems with injuries as well. 

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