Heron Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, Teslact said: LOL Spurs etc, but this BBC front page seems a bit biased when Spurs finished above Rangers in 4th: Spurs and Man United shouldn't even be in that competition if the hype was to be followed, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 29 minutes ago, Stifler said: There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. That got more than 41 points from 10 games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 28/01/2025 at 19:47, leffe186 said: It’s mental. Current injury team would be: Vicario, Spence, VDV, Romero, Udogie, Sarr, Bissouma, Maddison, Johnson, Solanke, Odobert, with Werner on the bench and Richarlison having a late fitness test. Meanwhile players like Porro, Son and Kulu are out on their feet. I said I was checking out until Feb but honestly might have to wait until March. Want to berate Ange but the whole thing is a joke. It goes to show how well we did last year. At one point we had 11 first team players injured/unavailable. Howe managed to see us thought that period and we only missed out on Europe due to bad luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzie Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 41 minutes ago, Stifler said: There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 17 minutes ago, Kazzie said: I like a nice stat. For us the one i like right now is 51.2% of our points have come in the last 8 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: It goes to show how well we did last year. At one point we had 11 first team players injured/unavailable. Howe managed to see us thought that period and we only missed out on Europe due to bad luck. Yeah, although I’m slightly less impressed he managed to see you through a period without Livramento and Miley as your RM and RW . Also there were three other clubs who had 11 players out at one point last season. You had terrible injury problems last season, with more minutes missed than any other club, and a key player in Pope missing for ages. The problem is that it’s just such a complex issue to compare, as the immediate context is so important. Last night we finished the game with the CM moved to LB, the LB moved to CB, a CM who’d played at CB all game and our fourth choice keeper who’s thankfully played well enough to move up to third choice. Not to mention the three teenagers in front of them and the other young player recalled from a loan who was pitched in out of desperation. The specific injuries at specific times across all positions are what is so difficult to contend with, and have resulted in players like Porro having to run themselves into the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Yeah, although I’m slightly less impressed he managed to see you through a period without Livramento and Miley as your RM and RW . Also there were three other clubs who had 11 players out at one point last season. You had terrible injury problems last season, with more minutes missed than any other club, and a key player in Pope missing for ages. The problem is that it’s just such a complex issue to compare, as the immediate context is so important. Last night we finished the game with the CM moved to LB, the LB moved to CB, a CM who’d played at CB all game and our fourth choice keeper who’s thankfully played well enough to move up to third choice. Not to mention the three teenagers in front of them and the other young player recalled from a loan who was pitched in out of desperation. The specific injuries at specific times across all positions are what is so difficult to contend with, and have resulted in players like Porro having to run themselves into the ground. Indeed. I was going to say I was not looking to compare in detail as it is hard and likely turns into a pissing contest as when you go though it it always feels worse than seeing from the outside. There is no doubt Spurs are going though a really tough time right now. We went though a tough time last year. I think Howe came out of it well. edit - I was stating this more as a complement to Howe than a dig at Ange Edited January 31 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I reckon McClaren was our worst ever manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Ben said: I reckon McClaren was our worst ever manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, Stifler said: There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. I've read this about 10 times and I've no idea how it's possible. Did you mean after the first 10 games last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: I've read this about 10 times and I've no idea how it's possible. Did you mean after the first 10 games last season? Glad it's not just me who couldn't work out what the hell Stifler was banging on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Aye there's that greedy fat pig, but McClaren thought he could do it and actually convinced himself and tried to with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Friday at 20:34 Share Posted Friday at 20:34 21 minutes ago, Ben said: I reckon McClaren was our worst ever manager Purely in terms of results given the quality of squad he had available, it’s a fair shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted Friday at 20:43 Share Posted Friday at 20:43 24 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Glad it's not just me who couldn't work out what the hell Stifler was banging on about. Not sure what Stifler is on. At least my tipple is only Sauvignon Blanc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted Friday at 22:12 Share Posted Friday at 22:12 15 hours ago, Stifler said: There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. Man I've read this about 7 times and still nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 22:14 Share Posted Friday at 22:14 15 hours ago, Stifler said: There is an image going round showing that they had more points after the first 10 games this season, than they do at the stage we are at this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted Friday at 22:26 Share Posted Friday at 22:26 2 hours ago, Ben said: I reckon McClaren was our worst ever manager Joe Kinnear managed us you know right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Friday at 22:32 Share Posted Friday at 22:32 4 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: Joe Kinnear managed us you know right? And probably did less damage than McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Saturday at 06:37 Share Posted Saturday at 06:37 (edited) Souness and Dalglish did a LOT of damage - Souness’s wasn’t reversed until Howe. Souness is the worst for me - worse than McClaren, Bruce or Kinnear. Souness inherited a talented young side that was a couple of players and some good man management away from challenging for the title and smashed it to smithereens within a year. edit: perhaps Bruce is the biggest wanker to manage us (my dad would still claim Gordon Lee for that one). But a manager who had us in lower mid table every season having taken over a team which had finished lower mid table can’t be the worst we’ve had. Edited Saturday at 06:39 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Saturday at 06:50 Share Posted Saturday at 06:50 10 hours ago, Ben said: Aye there's that greedy fat pig, but McClaren thought he could do it and actually convinced himself and tried to with us Bruce didn't try to do it with us. That right there lies the difference. Worst person ever associated with NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted Saturday at 06:59 Share Posted Saturday at 06:59 20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: edit: perhaps Bruce is the biggest wanker to manage us (my dad would still claim Gordon Lee for that one). But a manager who had us in lower mid table every season having taken over a team which had finished lower mid table can’t be the worst we’ve had. And I might claim Ron McGarry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Saturday at 07:05 Share Posted Saturday at 07:05 5 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: And I might claim Ron McGarry Which would be fair enough, though he predates my time, I know his short spell was disastrous (and entirely the result of ‘player power’) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted Saturday at 07:39 Share Posted Saturday at 07:39 37 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: And I might claim Ron McGarry Gordon Lee was the most destructive manager we ever had, but he was quite competent. He forced out many of our best players (MacDonald, Hibbitt, etc) while executing a harrying and dull long ball style, helped achieve our highest placing for 26 years, walked out on us mid season and whispered dissent into the ears of our players after he left the club. He turned things upside down and then walked out - all in 18 months. Then the pendulum swung the other way as McGarry was brought in to instil discipline. 1976 -82 was a calamitous period of mismanagement, an unambitious and stagnant boardroom, decrepit stadium, tumbling attendances and a backdrop of economic woe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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