Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Lee Ryder ffs: But the big striker worked his way back to form to such an extent that he courted the attention of England boss Fabio Capello, who was assessing his chances of participating at senior level during the Three Lions’ next European Championship qualifying campaign for the 2012 tournament in Poland and Ukraine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobthemag Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Got to keep him I'm afraid, in reality I think he should go, but unfortunately football doesnt really operate in the same way that society does whereby someone who does wrong gets punished and shunned for future employment etc. In reality 80% of the jobs out there are replaceable, theres always someone more willing and more skillful to take your place for free so the moral code is a lot easier to uphold, in football however players are considered assests, sacking aplayer serve no purpose whatsoever as the player will be happily snapped up by another club. In short the club doesnt benefit whatsoever by sacking him, but can benefit massively by keeping. Its a no brainer Im afriad. Unfortunately. some people may not like it, but what is good enough for Chelsea, manU, Liverpool and their players indiscretions is good enough for Newcastle. Point about Craig Bellamy is also relevant. The team and the club sufferred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 fine them now, get promoted. deal with it in the summer. promotion is the most important thing at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Carroll, by all accounts, should be behind bars by now. No-one is above the law? Well if rumours regarding him in the recent past, including this, are found to be true, he's climbing pretty close. Unfortunately he's vitally important for you at the moment so I would be shocked if he gets anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrists. Which is a crying shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Carroll, by all accounts, should be behind bars by now. No-one is above the law? Well if rumours regarding him in the recent past, including this, are found to be true, he's climbing pretty close. Unfortunately he's vitally important for you at the moment so I would be shocked if he gets anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrists. Which is a crying shame. Why? What has he been convicted of? If he's found guilty of an offence at this court case but not sent to prison because that offence doesn't warrant it, does that mean they've got wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Is he still in the squad tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prestonj1989 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Is he still in the squad tonight? According to .com he has travelled down to meet up with the rest of the squad and is available to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 He might have a short fuse off the pitch but it's funny how he can hold his temper on it. He hasn't stood out to me as a violent player, but then he loses his rag outside of work for nowt (so it seems, I could be wrong). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Carroll, by all accounts, should be behind bars by now. No-one is above the law? Well if rumours regarding him in the recent past, including this, are found to be true, he's climbing pretty close. Unfortunately he's vitally important for you at the moment so I would be shocked if he gets anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrists. Which is a crying shame. Why? What has he been convicted of? If he's found guilty of an offence at this court case but not sent to prison because that offence doesn't warrant it, does that mean they've got wrong? I'd find it incredible that he would avoid a prison sentence if he were to be convicted of assault occassioning ABH, which I'd dare say this comes under (if true). What happened to the apparent glass-throwing incident anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 He might have a short fuse off the pitch but it's funny how he can hold his temper on it. He hasn't stood out to me as a violent player, but then he loses his rag outside of work for nowt (so it seems, I could be wrong). Aye i can't remember him ever looking like he might pick up a red on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Lee Ryder ffs: But the big striker worked his way back to form to such an extent that he courted the attention of England boss Fabio Capello, who was assessing his chances of participating at senior level during the Three Lions next European Championship qualifying campaign for the 2012 tournament in Poland and Ukraine. He just doesn't give up with it. He's even worse than Oliver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Obviously Carroll is following Churchill's advice that "Jaw-Jaw" is better than "War-War" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest barnabox Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Got to keep him I'm afraid, in reality I think he should go, but unfortunately football doesnt really operate in the same way that society does whereby someone who does wrong gets punished and shunned for future employment etc. In reality 80% of the jobs out there are replaceable, theres always someone more willing and more skillful to take your place for free so the moral code is a lot easier to uphold, in football however players are considered assests, sacking aplayer serve no purpose whatsoever as the player will be happily snapped up by another club. In short the club doesnt benefit whatsoever by sacking him, but can benefit massively by keeping. Its a no brainer Im afriad. Unfortunately. some people may not like it, but what is good enough for Chelsea, manU, Liverpool and their players indiscretions is good enough for Newcastle. Point about Craig Bellamy is also relevant. The team and the club sufferred. The point about principles is that they are not principles if you abandon them just because sticking to them would make your life more difficult/inconvenient. Yes the club may suffer if we got rid of AC, but we should decide whether the alleged behaviour is the sort of thing that we want to condone. If not, then we should get rid, even if we suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 And its exactly that sort of attitude that makes him think he can get away with doing this sort of stuff. The examples of players doing this kind of thing and being booted out are few and far between. Once again, why should we sacrifice our possible promotion to please others ? He's an ars*hole charver, no doubt. What he needs is to be thumped by a REAL hard man. Booted out is just OTT - ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Got to keep him I'm afraid, in reality I think he should go, but unfortunately football doesnt really operate in the same way that society does whereby someone who does wrong gets punished and shunned for future employment etc. In reality 80% of the jobs out there are replaceable, theres always someone more willing and more skillful to take your place for free so the moral code is a lot easier to uphold, in football however players are considered assests, sacking aplayer serve no purpose whatsoever as the player will be happily snapped up by another club. In short the club doesnt benefit whatsoever by sacking him, but can benefit massively by keeping. Its a no brainer Im afriad. Unfortunately. some people may not like it, but what is good enough for Chelsea, manU, Liverpool and their players indiscretions is good enough for Newcastle. Point about Craig Bellamy is also relevant. The team and the club sufferred. The point about principles is that they are not principles if you abandon them just because sticking to them would make your life more difficult/inconvenient. Yes the club may suffer if we got rid of AC, but we should decide whether the alleged behaviour is the sort of thing that we want to condone. If not, then we should get rid, even if we suffer. Which is fair enough if the rest of the football clubs adhered to the same principles, which they wont' and/or don't. As it stands if we get rid of Carrol then it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. None. We uphold a moral code that no one else will, no one learns, no message gets sent out. "Newcastle united won't take any of your shit, but most clubs who want you will..." Getting rid is a lose, lose and lose situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Just need to severely fine him IMO. Oviously apologise and all that stuff, and maybe take out 50percent of his wages and give it to SBR Foundation or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Him and Tayls need to make up, both go see the text message slut in question and spitroast the biatch, smiles all around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Him and Tayls need to make up, both go see the text message slut in question and spitroast the biatch, smiles all around. Is that before or after we cancel Andy's contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Him and Tayls need to make up, both go see the text message slut in question and spitroast the biatch, smiles all around. Is that before or after we cancel Andy's contract? Durring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 If the reports are true then I'm stunned he has been allowed to start tonight. Sets an awful example to the younger players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 If the reports are true then I'm stunned he has been allowed to start tonight. Sets an awful example to the younger players. Agreed. Put him on the bench at least. He's important, but the club should not be bending over backwards for his nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Fuck that we need as much goal threat as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebolarama Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 What a surprise that the poisonous, infectious atmosphere inside Newcastle United really hasn't gone away. And how quick people are to defend lowbrow cretins like Andy Carroll, Joey Barton and Craig Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 What a surprise that the poisonous, infectious atmosphere inside Newcastle United really hasn't gone away. And how quick people are to defend lowbrow cretins like Andy Carroll, Joey Barton and Craig Bellamy. Barton hasn't done anything to any of our players though. Neither did Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebolarama Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 What a surprise that the poisonous, infectious atmosphere inside Newcastle United really hasn't gone away. And how quick people are to defend lowbrow cretins like Andy Carroll, Joey Barton and Craig Bellamy. Barton hasn't done anything to any of our players though. Neither did Bellamy. They're still disgraceful cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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