Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/We-wouldn-t-sell-Chelsea-Manchester-City-and-Tottenham-target-Andy-Carroll-for-40m-insists-Newcastle-chiefs-article662079.html We wouldn't sell Carroll for £40m, insists Toon chiefs Published 23:59 01/01/11 By Alan Oliver Newcastle have warned the Premier League big boys that £40million won’t buy Andy Carroll. Owner Mike Ashley has given the Toon army the best new year message they could wish for – that he is determined to hang on to the club’s prize asset. Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham all seem willing to test that resolve. But now Newcastle will hope to scare them off with a mega-money price tag on centre-forward Carroll. We revealed in November that Chelsea wanted the young Geordie as eventual replacement for Didier Drogba. Since then, oil-rich City and Harry Redknapp’s Spurs have thrown their hat into the ring for England’s newest international. But a source close to Ashley said: “Every week there seems to be a new club supposedly wanting Carroll. “This must be worrrying for the fans, but Mike Ashley knows that new manager Alan Pardew wants to build his team around Carroll and he is not interested in selling him – even if someone bids £40m.” This would be encouraging if they weren't proven liars like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/We-wouldn-t-sell-Chelsea-Manchester-City-and-Tottenham-target-Andy-Carroll-for-40m-insists-Newcastle-chiefs-article662079.html We wouldn't sell Carroll for £40m, insists Toon chiefs Published 23:59 01/01/11 By Alan Oliver Newcastle have warned the Premier League big boys that £40million won’t buy Andy Carroll. Owner Mike Ashley has given the Toon army the best new year message they could wish for – that he is determined to hang on to the club’s prize asset. Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham all seem willing to test that resolve. But now Newcastle will hope to scare them off with a mega-money price tag on centre-forward Carroll. We revealed in November that Chelsea wanted the young Geordie as eventual replacement for Didier Drogba. Since then, oil-rich City and Harry Redknapp’s Spurs have thrown their hat into the ring for England’s newest international. But a source close to Ashley said: “Every week there seems to be a new club supposedly wanting Carroll. “This must be worrrying for the fans, but Mike Ashley knows that new manager Alan Pardew wants to build his team around Carroll and he is not interested in selling him – even if someone bids £40m.” This would be encouraging if they weren't proven liars like. as everyone in the horse trading game is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. We've never had a player like that either mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. I don't believe Ashley gives a shite about the club, let alone what the fans think. If we got a decent offer for Carroll I would expect him to accept, previous or no previous. That's just the know-nowt cunt I think he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. I don't believe Ashley gives a s**** about the club, let alone what the fans think. If we got a decent offer for Carroll I would expect him to accept, previous or no previous. That's just the know-nowt c*** I think he is. I guess that's where we disagree then For any other player, yes. But I just don't see them selling Carroll unless a really stupid offer comes in. Can't see how they'd benefit at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ask madras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. I don't believe Ashley gives a s**** about the club, let alone what the fans think. If we got a decent offer for Carroll I would expect him to accept, previous or no previous. That's just the know-nowt c*** I think he is. i think it'll take more than a decent offer...it'll take an over the top milner,barry or lescott type offer at which any club would think twice about any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Even with past decisions, you can see some sort of weird twisted logic whereby they were trying to gain something from making certain decisions. The stadium name change was to generate advertising income, sacking Hughton and hiring Pardew was to give Ashley's mate a job and to bring in 'more Premiership experience', Dennis Wise was to bring some football knowledge to the board. All really bad decisions, and I don't agree with any of them, but at least in these cases, Ashley was trying to gain something from it. He'd gain nothing from selling our best player - it's not like he could write a cheque to himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 It would reduce the huge sums of personal wealth he generously pumps into the club all the time in order to keep it from instantly doing a Portsmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 It would reduce the huge sums of personal wealth he generously pumps into the club all the time in order to keep it from instantly doing a Portsmouth. But at the same time, it would ridiculously weaken our attack, we'd go down, lose money and he'd have to pump money in anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Never mind that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh, and if we do alright in the next few games without Carroll then I'd expect the likelihood of selling him to increase substantially. I'm not saying it's a certainty we'll sell him, just that I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's beyond me why anyone would still trust anything they say or do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh, and if we do alright in the next few games without Carroll then I'd expect the likelihood of selling him to increase substantially. I'm not saying it's a certainty we'll sell Carroll, just that I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. could work in reverse aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Aye, we might sell Shola instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh, and if we do alright in the next few games without Carroll then I'd expect the likelihood of selling him to increase substantially. I'm not saying it's a certainty we'll sell Carroll, just that I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. could work in reverse aswell. In that instance it would be better for our medium/long term prospects to do poorly in the short term. What a desperately pathetic state of affairs that would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 It's too big of an 'if' anyway, because I can't see us doing well in the next few games anyway. So we might as well just hope for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cg/courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm Laws 3, 17, 25, 32 and 42 to some respsect. All of this guessing over what ashley will do just reminds me of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richo Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Let's hope someone doesn't offer 41 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Let's hope someone doesn't offer 41 million or lets hope someone does as he's not worth that muc....providing we get it to spend and spend it well. won't happen like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. ALL previous boards have sold our best players - even KK under SJH sold Andy Cole, admittedly so he could sign Ferdinand later but Man U wanted Cole amd away he went. We did OK after he went, but we finished lower than in the previous season. Then you have Gazza, Beardsley, Waddle, Supermac, Pop Robson etc etc...some of these players wanted to go, but only because they couldn't see the club winning honours - has that changed now ? If the right offer comes in, Carroll will be off although I would still be surprised if it was before the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 The best timing for Ashley to sell Carroll is the 2012 summer, after Euro 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I understand that people are concerned, but have they really went and sold our best players in the past? Can't think of a situation when they've sold someone that didn't want to leave, that's then went on to cripple the team. ALL previous boards have sold our best players - even KK under SJH sold Andy Cole, admittedly so he could sign Ferdinand later but Man U wanted Cole amd away he went. We did OK after he went, but we finished lower than in the previous season. Then you have Gazza, Beardsley, Waddle, Supermac, Pop Robson etc etc...some of these players wanted to go, but only because they couldn't see the club winning honours - has that changed now ? If the right offer comes in, Carroll will be off although I would still be surprised if it was before the summer. cole left midseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What's actually going on with Carroll? Late fitness test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What's actually going on with Carroll? Late fitness test? Just about to post this Mind games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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