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Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a f***ing idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is f***ing monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players.

 

That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that.

 

Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players.

 

Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a s*** one way or another. f*** that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must.

 

Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends.

 

As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and f*** ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like s***, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking.

 

Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say.

 

Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists.

 

f*** the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it.

 

This is about the 3rd or 4th time you've posted something with similar sentiments.

 

And he still doesn't draw attention to the fact that Carroll handed in a transfer request. Nope, it can't be the Geordie icon. Has to be the cockney bastard.

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Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a f***ing idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is f***ing monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players.

 

That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that.

 

Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players.

 

Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a s*** one way or another. f*** that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must.

 

Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends.

 

As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and f*** ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like s***, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking.

 

Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say.

 

Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists.

 

f*** the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it.

 

Pot.  Kettle.  Put a sock in it.

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Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a fucking idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is fucking monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players.

 

That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that.

 

Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players.

 

Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a shit one way or another. Fuck that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must.

 

Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends.

 

As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and fuck ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like shit, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking.

 

Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say.

 

Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists.

 

Fuck the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it.

 

in the first paragraph you say Carroll didn't force a move  for more money and then in the 2nd paragraph you say thats why we cherish Shearer coz he followed the dream and not the money

 

what?

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In terms of goals and performances we've been as good over the last 4 league games Carroll has been out as we have been at any point in the season, and were very very close to taking 12 from 12. It isn't a disaster, it doesn't mean we're now going to get relegated, although that doesn't stop me feeling as sick as I did when Beardsley left for Liverpool over 20 years ago.

 

If we re-invest it all, or if Carroll doesn't become the greatest player the league has ever seen (as his fee suggests), then overall it isn't a terrible move which makes me question the game or supporting NUFC.

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Anyone who thinks Carroll forced a move here is a f***ing idiot of the highest order, especially given the track record of the complete and utter wanks who own and run our club. I'm not going to even pretend to know the exact details but I seriously doubt Carroll was or is so desperate to leave a club where he's guaranteed to start every game if fit, where he is absolutely worshipped by the fans and where he is actually doing very well at, earning himself a deserved England cap. I think what has happened is that the money offered is simply too much to turn down and it is when you look at it. £35m + for a 22 year-old striker with only half a season or so experience in the top-flight and with limited areas to his game is f***ing monumental and on a par with the fee Man Utd received for Ronaldo. Crazy crazy money which no club could afford to turn down. Speaking of which, in the past few years the following clubs have lost their Andy Carroll: Everton (Rooney), Man Utd (Ronaldo), Spurs (Berbatov), mackems (Bent), Liverpool (Torress) and so on and so on. Money talks regardless of player and club. I expect Man Utd to lose Rooney in the next year or so and Arsenal Fabregas, huge important players at huge club who will go where the money takes them. Figo left Barca for Real, Zidane left Juventus for Real. Ronaldo left barca for Inter. My point? Not many stars stay at their clubs for very long even if those clubs are huge clubs or even if those players are local players.

 

That is why we must cherish our legends like Shearer, players who followed the dream and not the money. We'll never see the like again here at this club or in the modern game. Remember that.

 

Back to Carroll... I'm not his biggest fan but losing him means an awful lot more than losing any old player. He is a Geordie, he could have been our main man for a decade, he's an academy product. Selling him is our way of conceding to money, the player and indeed other clubs. We are now a selling club, a club of limited ambition who cannot even hang onto its local players, its better players.

 

Looking at it like that you have to wonder just what is the point of football at the moment? For me I'm struggling to find a point of it other than I was born a Geordie and therefore must support NUFC. For what though? To have good men removed from my club for no point whatsoever, KK and Hughton, Sir Bobby before that, for key players to be sold or forego any kind of loyalty, for fans simply to allow themselves to be walked over by chairmen, owners, players. To pay huge sums each year to follow a set of people who couldn't give a s*** one way or another. f*** that. My interest in NUFC these days is merely a passing following and that's again, down to being a Geordie and therefore I must.

 

Football itself has transcended what it used to be all about to now being all about money. Money, money, money. From the owners to the managers to the players and even the fans these days. Long gone is the loyalty, passion and feeling that like a magnet drew the likes of Shearer and Sir Bobby and KK into the game, their clubs and their role in it as heroes, legends.

 

As for Mike Ashley and co... who can blame Carroll or anyone for that matter wanting to leave somewhere where these clowns run amok. Carroll is joining a huge successful club who enters every competition aiming to win it, who only cares about silverware. At Newcastle its all about politics, failure, broken dreams, dodgy deals and f*** ups. Who seriously wants to be at a club who gets rid of one of its better managers in recent years for a worse one for no apparent reason other, or a club who treats its legends like s***, i.e. the whole Shearer fiasco after relegation or before that Sir Bobby's sacking.

 

Carroll will go onto better things at Liverpool and that's sad for me to have to write or say.

 

Thank you Mike Ashley (and money in the game which Ashley is a manifestation of), not for relegation, the sale of Carroll the KK stuff or sacking Hughton but for forcing me to give up the one thing I've never lacked - my faith in my club and the game. Today it no longer exists.

 

f*** the lot of it, it literally isn't worth it.

Bloody hell feel suicidal now  :suicide:  Seriously wish Ashley sold up and fucked off he is a cancer destroying the club i love
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Liverpool Medical has failed.

 

Medical reveals that Andy Carroll is in fact Edge. Vince McMahon reveals himself as The Higher Power behind the deal.

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