Guest Brazilianbob Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Just read Pardews quotes on the BBC where he says "at the end of the day we got an extraordinary sum of money for a 21 year old with only 6 months experience in the premiership". All I can say in response to that is thank goodness we never had a 21 yeard old Messi on our books. No doubt he would have been sold too for "an extraordinary sum of money" that would eventually pale into insignificance once his true value became known. I suspect that will now be the case with Carroll, with the added painful bonus of seeing him score many many goals against us over the next ten years! The problem with having non footballing people in charge of our club, namely Llambias and Ashley, is they are businessmen and cannot see beyond the end of a balance sheet. They just cannot see that a players worth after 6 months could treble or quadruple given a year or two! They have quite simply sold the family silver for short term gain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 He put a request in and tried to hold the club to ransom over pay I don't blame the club at all. It's unfortunate that he chose money over us. Time to move on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I wish Metro radio would shut the fuck up about people who have bought a shirt with Cunt 9 on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Reading the italian papers today. They call it the "strangest" transfer of the window. 35mil on a player who has scored so few goals, is currently injured, made only 1 token appearance for the national side, and is more well known for his actions off the pitch. Interesting outsider perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Just read Pardews quotes on the BBC where he says "at the end of the day we got an extraordinary sum of money for a 21 year old with only 6 months experience in the premiership". All I can say in response to that is thank goodness we never had a 21 yeard old Messi on our books. No doubt he would have been sold too for "an extraordinary sum of money" that would eventually pale into insignificance once his true value became known. I suspect that will now be the case with Carroll, with the added painful bonus of seeing him score many many goals against us over the next ten years! The problem with having non footballing people in charge of our club, namely Llambias and Ashley, is they are businessmen and cannot see beyond the end of a balance sheet. They just cannot see that a players worth after 6 months could treble or quadruple given a year or two! They have quite simply sold the family silver for short term gain! except. someone paid more for an unproven, injured, trouble maker 21 year old than others have for, say........David Villa. Do youself a favor and look at the top 50 transfers of all time, and tell me where Carrol ranks. Ill miss him, and I dont like the cloud, but lets not forget we got the 8th highest transfer ever paid. More than Rooney, more than Ferdinand, more than berbatov, more than David Villa, etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As much as Llambias is a lying cunt, I'm inclined to believe what he's said is the most realistic scenario just down to sheer plausibility difference between the various stories being bandied about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 `Reading the italian papers today. They call it the "strangest" transfer of the window. 35mil on a player who has scored so few goals, is currently injured, made only 1 token appearance for the national side, and is more well known for his actions off the pitch.` whats do italians know about football anyway? SOunds like another clueless jounalist spouting obvious statements.....its easy to look in from the outside and not comprehend whats transpired in the last 48hrs. YOu cant analyse a footballer by stats alone. Well you can if ur the 2 muppets who run nufc, but dalglish knows what to look for in afootballer. I hope carroll goes on to put a hatrick past some equally clueless italian side in the chmp lge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 `Reading the italian papers today. They call it the "strangest" transfer of the window. 35mil on a player who has scored so few goals, is currently injured, made only 1 token appearance for the national side, and is more well known for his actions off the pitch.` whats do italians know about football anyway? SOunds like another clueless jounalist spouting obvious statements.....its easy to look in from the outside and not comprehend whats transpired in the last 48hrs. YOu cant analyse a footballer by stats alone. Well you can if ur the 2 muppets who run nufc, but dalglish knows what to look for in afootballer. I hope carroll goes on to put a hatrick past some equally clueless italian side in the chmp lge. But...but..they will never play in the Champions League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 `Reading the italian papers today. They call it the "strangest" transfer of the window. 35mil on a player who has scored so few goals, is currently injured, made only 1 token appearance for the national side, and is more well known for his actions off the pitch.` whats do italians know about football anyway? SOunds like another clueless jounalist spouting obvious statements.....its easy to look in from the outside and not comprehend whats transpired in the last 48hrs. YOu cant analyse a footballer by stats alone. Well you can if ur the 2 muppets who run nufc, but dalglish knows what to look for in afootballer. I hope carroll goes on to put a hatrick past some equally clueless italian side in the chmp lge. Obviously outside of England people will think it's a crazy transfer fee. Carroll's real value is in the premier league, I don't think he would be effective in European leagues where the ball is kept on the deck and the pace is a lot slower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 IF all of the money is reinvested, then I think it'll be good business. For argument's sake, even if he goes on to be one of the best players in the world, we will never look back at having cashed in too early or for too little. We got 35M, hardly anybody goes for higher than that anywhere in the world. Keeping him would have been a statement of ambition, that we can stand up to the big clubs and plan on keeping our best players. It would have been a stubborn act of defiance in the face of a very, very tempting offer. Losing him is a depressing sign that these clubs can bully us. However, I think few clubs would have rejected an offer that big for a player who at 22 has a handful of top flight goals to his name. Really, how many clubs would have said no? I think we've played well enough without him to convince me that we can come out a winner in all this. But it all depends on Ashley reinvesting it in the team. It may be that we had to take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward. It's up to Ashley now to make that happen, because as things stand it's a backwards step. There is the worry that the team will be down because of this and some may question our ambition. But I reckon the players will be looking forward to an interesting summer too and hoping some quality will come in. We will see soon enough how the players react, but they've got the ability to perform without him as they have shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 `Reading the italian papers today. They call it the "strangest" transfer of the window. 35mil on a player who has scored so few goals, is currently injured, made only 1 token appearance for the national side, and is more well known for his actions off the pitch.` whats do italians know about football anyway? SOunds like another clueless jounalist spouting obvious statements.....its easy to look in from the outside and not comprehend whats transpired in the last 48hrs. YOu cant analyse a footballer by stats alone. Well you can if ur the 2 muppets who run nufc, but dalglish knows what to look for in afootballer. I hope carroll goes on to put a hatrick past some equally clueless italian side in the chmp lge. It hardly makes Dalglish a footballing genius that he spotted Andy Carroll. Any human who's watched MOTD this season would want to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Feels like a resort town after a bank holiday weekend when there was a big concert going on around here today. Only a few locals left and a return to peace and quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? more than likely by saying "were not selling you unless you request a transfer" and call the players bluff i'd imagine, which is what I believe happened here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Says the man with more "shady dealing" previous than anyone else in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Would Andy Carroll be worth 35mill next year ? With the new spending rules coming in will players values drop ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8256279.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 If Andy Carroll wasn't pushed out, why did Newcastle fly him to Liverpool. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premiership/if-andy-carroll-wasnrsquot-pushed-out-why-did-newcastle-fly-him-to-liverpool-15070876.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Who cares? Redknapp talks bullshit every other day of the year, why should we be inclined to listen now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Who cares? Redknapp talks bullshit every other day of the year, why should we be inclined to listen now? He obviously wanted Carroll and knew he was available but he didn't want to entertain a bid as large as Liverpools. They've (spurs) obviously made an enquiry and been told it's a 'do-able' one. On that basis, he knew it had little to do with the player and more to do with the selling club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I care, thats why I asked, for fucks sake. You're such a pedantic bore in all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Carroll is s***. Agreed. I'm not going to do an NE5 and claim that we were always right. its just amazing how quickly this whole thing has changed. i remember saying to my dad and uncle in the summer, 'he wont get 5 goals in the prem all season him, he wont keep us up'. 6 months later, he's the most expensive british player in history. madness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Who cares? Redknapp talks bullshit every other day of the year, why should we be inclined to listen now? He obviously wanted Carroll and knew he was available but he didn't want to entertain a bid as large as Liverpools. They've (spurs) obviously made an enquiry and been told it's a 'do-able' one. On that basis, he knew it had little to do with the player and more to do with the selling club. The fact that he wanted Carroll and didn't get him, or any other decent striker, means he's bitter and will say anything. The press might as well be asking Mackems what they think happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I care, thats why I asked, for f***s sake. You're such a pedantic bore in all of this. Sorry, I didn't see your question. Just thought you were bringing the quote up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I find the Redknapp quotes interesting. Im on my phone so I cant get the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of 'clubs get their players to hand in transfer requests and then act like they didnt want to sell the player'. How do they do that then? Who cares? Redknapp talks bullshit every other day of the year, why should we be inclined to listen now? He obviously wanted Carroll and knew he was available but he didn't want to entertain a bid as large as Liverpools. They've (spurs) obviously made an enquiry and been told it's a 'do-able' one. On that basis, he knew it had little to do with the player and more to do with the selling club. The fact that he wanted Carroll and didn't get him, or any other decent striker, means he's bitter and will say anything. The press might as well be asking Mackems what they think happened. What have the Mackems go to do with this? Did they contact NUFC and register an interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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