Dave Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I saw a bit of him tonight and he still looks over-reliant on the physical side. What the f*** do you expect when the blokes 6'4", a great header of the ball and his physicality scares the s*** out of defenders. Worth £10m all day long imo, but he'd have to take a pay cut to come back here. Yeah, but I think there's a limit to how good a player he can become and therefore what level of football he can play. He's not good enough for Liverpool but good enough for West Ham and us at the present moment. According to Pardew, Shola is good enough for us. Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I saw a bit of him tonight and he still looks over-reliant on the physical side. What the f*** do you expect when the blokes 6'4", a great header of the ball and his physicality scares the s*** out of defenders. Worth £10m all day long imo, but he'd have to take a pay cut to come back here. Yeah, but I think there's a limit to how good a player he can become and therefore what level of football he can play. He's not good enough for Liverpool but good enough for West Ham and us at the present moment. The question is - is he good enough for where we're aiming? He'd be a useful member of any squad, but I wouldn't want to build our team around him. It's not that he isn't good enough for Liverpool, its he doesn't fit into what they want to do. If it was about just being good enough they wouldn't have loaned him in the first place, they are trying to have a team which is built around Suarez and he doesn't fit into that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I saw a bit of him tonight and he still looks over-reliant on the physical side. What the f*** do you expect when the blokes 6'4", a great header of the ball and his physicality scares the s*** out of defenders. Worth £10m all day long imo, but he'd have to take a pay cut to come back here. Yeah, but I think there's a limit to how good a player he can become and therefore what level of football he can play. He's not good enough for Liverpool but good enough for West Ham and us at the present moment. The question is - is he good enough for where we're aiming? He'd be a useful member of any squad, but I wouldn't want to build our team around him. It's not that he isn't good enough for Liverpool, its he doesn't fit into what they want to do. If it was about just being good enough they wouldn't have loaned him in the first place, they are trying to have a team which is built around Suarez and he doesn't fit into that. Think he would add another dimension to their game, it's all nice playing a passing game but they will have to mix it up at some point. Not sure what Rodgers is playing at, but I think it's not just the playing side that he sees Carroll not fitting in. Those late night outings and lack of full commitment to fitness may have more to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just think Brenda couldn't be arsed to try and make him work, have the media distraction of the £35m misfit who can't get a start and what he'd do with him. Liverpool have a style, give the ball to Saurez and hope he scores, don't think it's anything to crow about and don't think it's anything Carroll couldn't play in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 He'll be back in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think he'll probably be back and HBA will go the other way, and who could blame him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think he'll probably be back and HBA will go the other way, and who could blame him. Please no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think he'll probably be back and HBA will go the other way, and who could blame him. I don't see that happening at all. Straight cash transfer should suffice. Rodgers wouldn't be so daft as to request HBA in return for a player he has no use for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He'll be back in the summer. I doubt it, considering the style of players we've been recruiting since he left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Which is one of the main reasons he will be coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think he'll be back and I'd be quite happy. Seems to be enough of a buzz in the local press, and can see Ashley seeing it as good business considering what we sold him for. I still have a soft spot for having a geordie up front and I think he's a good player who's not worth 35mil and has had his confidence knocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think he'll probably be back and HBA will go the other way, and who could blame him. If HBA goes, he'll do a lot better than Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Playing for a move "home" That's what I thought like - a few rumours of a return to the toon and suddenly he's a rampaging beast again. Come home Andy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He must be fucking mental if he's playing for a move back here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Which is one of the main reasons he will be coming back. If Pardew is the long term answer then we might as well give him some Stoke type players, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I previously said I wouldn't fancy taking him back - but if he's gonna be the player he was before he left, and as long as we didn't have to give HBA as part of the deal, then I'd welcome him with open arms and legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If swapping Ben Arfa for Carroll is ever something that happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 It's an absurd notion to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If he wasn't from here no one would even mention him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If he wasn't from here no one would even mention him. He's played some fantastic football for us, I think that's the reason more than his geographic origin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If he wasn't from here no one would even mention him. He's played some fantastic football for us, I think that's the reason more than his geographic origin. Yeah, if we can have this back, I'm all for it. Goodbye Andy Carroll "10-11 Goal with the Newcastle United FC" Youtube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Liverpool Echo saying price hasnt come down. No way will we pay £17m for him, nor should we. Hopefully we can move on to a striker capable of movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Ben Arfa going the other way? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Ben Arfa going the other way? No thanks. Getting sick of people saying it. Rodgers said it was bullshit, HBA has said hes going nowhere. Its all shitty rumours that daft twitter muppets spread. Would be a horrific swap that we wouldnt entertain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Swap deals almost never happen anyway, the idea is total bullshit of the worst kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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